Beau Roth

Voice Over (00:02):
This show is sponsored by the Comics Shop. We hope you enjoy the show

Leigh Chalker (00:25):
And good day. This is episode 27 of Tuesday, chinwag, and my name is Lee Chalker. I’m the creator of Battle for Bustle and the co-creator of Ring Around the Rosie, which is an upcoming comic book, which will be out shortly. Tonight’s guest, well there’s another live streamer he’s well known around the place. He’s a funny dude. And I’m going to say get evening to Bo Roth, otherwise known as Omni Bo on the Inter Webbys. So how are you buddy? You going? All right.

Beau Roth (00:57):
Very well mate. Thank you very much for having me on. I feel very honoured to be here.

Leigh Chalker (01:01):
No, that’s cool man. It’s a pleasure to have you. So looking forward to this evening. So for anyone, good day Nick, and thank you for everyone watching already. For anyone that hasn’t seen the show before and are playing at home, it’s based on who, what, where, when, why, and how. And just these prompting words to get us chattering and chin wagging and hopefully we talk about comics, but these things have been known to go in many directions and for varying lengths of time. So we’ll see how we go tonight. Alright, bye mate. I’m going to come in with the first one, bring it on. We’ll see how you go. Alright, so who

Beau Roth (01:48):
Am I? Is that what you want to know? Okay. It’s very simple.

Leigh Chalker (01:53):
Whatever that word prompts you to talk about, mate.

Beau Roth (01:56):
Okay, well I’m assuming you want to know who I am. So I’ll tell you who I am. I am one of the co-hosts of Aussie verse. We’ve got our own show on the YouTubes and we try to do a lot of comic stuff, pop culture and things like that. Myself personally, I’m just comic nerd. I’ve been reading comics my whole life. I’m deep into that pulp culture like millions of other people are. And I just love talking about it, getting into it, reading it, watching it, anything to do with it. I’m sure there are a lot more people out there knowledgeable than me, but I’ve got a lot of passion and I think that’s what’s what I bring to the table.

Leigh Chalker (02:38):
Well, I like that passion mate. It’s catching. I’m just going to let you know that out of the two of us, there’s probably you are going to win the competition on the knowing all about the pop culture and stuff like that is I barely turned my tally on, man, but I’m here to learn. That’s what it’s all about.

Beau Roth (03:00):
That’s cool, man. Three minutes in and I’m winning.

Leigh Chalker (03:02):
Oh man. You don’t get anything at the end, but it’s more the feeling of victory.

Beau Roth (03:11):
It’s like a Marvel. No prize is it? That’s

Leigh Chalker (03:13):
Right. He’ll tide you through. You’ll be happy as Larry until you go to sleep tonight and then you’ll wake up tomorrow and you just be fresh as a daisy with that smell of victory and yeah. Alright man. So let’s go back to Little Bow. When you were growing up, so whereabouts did you grow up? What’s your first comic book? What’s your first thing that attracted you to the world of comics?

Beau Roth (03:42):
So grew up well, started off in Caulfield, then moved down to Glen Waverley, grew up at Glen Waverley Wheelers Hill, that sort of hood from late eighties, early nineties, and then moved around all Bayside. Basically. The way I got into comics was I used to read these, choose your own adventure books, but not the classic Choose your own adventure books. I’m talking these Green Spine by Steve Levinson and I forget what they were called.

Leigh Chalker (04:14):
Yeah, there’s another dude called Fighting Fantasy.

Beau Roth (04:17):
That’s it. Fighting fantasy books,

Leigh Chalker (04:19):
Man. I used to love them. I used to love those books, man. But I used to cheat and pick which part of the story I wanted to go in. I caught on after that and dad, they stopped on them.

Beau Roth (04:31):
Yeah, I dunno what happened to ’em all. I had like 50 of ’em or so, and I think my dad got it into his head. I’m buying my kid a book every week or two, and he’s reading quite a bit. I know comics can be worth a bit of money at some stage. My dad was a Phantom fan, so he thinks he’s doing me a, he did me a favour actually, and he went to the comic bookstore and he went out and he picked a whole bunch of number ones, right? All these new comics and a stack of ’em, and he brings ’em home and he goes, here, read these. And in them was Venom number one, some random image, supreme number one, and just a few other comics, man. And I was hooked ever since then, especially into the Spider-Man, venom side of things. And yeah, it was very secluded for a long time as well though. It was just Spider-Man and Venom. I wasn’t really into Marvel DC or anything like that. Death of Superman really got me into Superman for a while actually. But yeah, yeah, it was a big well that you just fall down, I think, which is a very similar story, I think to many comic book readers out there.

Leigh Chalker (05:45):
Yeah, it is a big, well, man, you pull that little pebble out, man, suddenly it all comes falling down on real quick. Now obviously you’re telling us the truth by being a reader because giving away is the fact that there’s a bazillion books behind you. When did you stop floppies and decide that the omnibus was the way to go for you? Man,

Beau Roth (06:22):
So it was a slow progression actually, because I was collecting single issues for so many years and you get white long box or short box after long box after short box, and you just stack ’em and stack ’em and stack ’em. And it’s now a big money game to single issues. And when you are in it purely for the story, you’re not in it to make money or to sell or any, you’re just reading and collecting and you start to realise, hang on, being in Australia is not the wisest way to be collecting comics if you want continued reading the rest of your life. So I said, all right, that’s it, I’m done. I’m going to go to trade waiting and collected editions, and I was doing that for many years. Then I clued on that there was even a better way to save even more money, and that was instead of getting the trades, get the even bigger collections and don’t worry about the $30 trades every few months, get the a hundred, $150 omnibuses and it has the whole thing in one. And I was hooked from there, man. And I ended up replacing a huge majority of my collection because every time I’d get a new omnibus, I’d sell the trades or the hard come.

(07:38)
They look so much better on the shelf, I think each of their own. But that’s what I think.

Leigh Chalker (07:45):
No, no. Well, you’re in the right place for things that look good on the shelf. I don’t have ’em in here, but in the house I’ve got a couple of bookshelves full of comic books and trade paperbacks and omni buses and that myself, man. Have you got a favourite off the top of your head? Don’t turn around.

Beau Roth (08:06):
Anyone that knows me knows the easy answer is my Spider-Man clone saga. I go on about that until the cows come home. So I think that’s the easy answer though, because that’s just a given. But if you wanted to ask me anything, but that off the top of my head, I think Punisher Max. I love that story, man. It is so good. I dunno if you’ve ever read it.

Leigh Chalker (08:29):
No, I’ve never read it, no. Oh God, I can’t even tell you the last Punisher comic book I ever read, man, just trying to think. Probably The Death of Punisher for me back in the, probably late nineties or something like that, man, when he started Fascinating People and Shield went after him and that and they liked him in Daredevil. I thought that dude did a really good version of him in that, but that’s as far as I’ve gotten with him for a long time. Man,

Beau Roth (09:01):
This series sets it apart from everything else because it takes him so to speak out of the Marvel universe and puts him into our universe. So he’s just a guy loses his family and what would happen in the real world. And it has a start and it definitely has a finish. And don’t get me wrong, it’s obviously not a hundred percent accurate because in real life someone would probably last, I don’t know, a year to being the punishment in real life, but this guy, man, he’s out there taking down criminals that are the worst scum of society. No superheroes, no super villains, crooks, rapists, paedophiles, all this sort of stuff, and it’s really well done.

Leigh Chalker (09:48):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, right. Okay. How big, was that an ongoing series originally or? Yeah,

Beau Roth (09:53):
Yeah, yeah, it’s gone for two, actually, I’m going to have a look. Three omnibuses actually. Three omnibuses, yeah,

Leigh Chalker (10:03):
Yeah, right. Okay. Alright. So what’s the average page count for an omnibus man? It just depends on the stories they’re collecting or,

Beau Roth (10:12):
Yeah, you can’t really say what an average page count is because I’ve got omnibuses that are ridiculous that they’re called an omnibus. They’re very, very small. But then you’ve got 500 pages, 700 pages, you’ve got a thousand pages. So yeah, depends on the story.

Leigh Chalker (10:30):
And how long does it take you to read one mate, like a voracious read? You sit down at seven in the morning, whole day gone, finished by five, or is it over the course of a week or two when you

Beau Roth (10:42):
Yeah, look, an omnibus will take me about a week if not two to read. Yeah, I haven’t got the time to read as much as I wanted these days. So yeah, the speed that I do about a week or two for one.

Leigh Chalker (10:57):
Yeah. Yeah. And have you read all of those ones behind you?

Beau Roth (11:01):
Hell no. No.

Leigh Chalker (11:04):
I going to say you’ve been collecting since you were like three. It’s like, man, I wouldn’t have gotten through half of them either. Bloody

Beau Roth (11:11):
Well, you asked me two years ago and I would’ve said 70 or 80% I’ve read. But yeah, I’ve bought a lot in the last couple of years.

Leigh Chalker (11:21):
No, that’s fair enough. You got to do what you got to do. So I guess I’ll go to what, so what I’m encompassing is now we’ve met Bo briefly, the Bo Roth part of you, but there is the alter ego that is with us as well, and you’ve kindly named yourself for everyone watching now Omni Bow. Tell us about the formation of Aussie verse and the Omniverse Facebook page and Omni Bow and your birth into the whole live streaming thing, man.

Beau Roth (12:09):
So we’re only going to talk about the positive parts of these

Leigh Chalker (12:13):
Conversations

Beau Roth (12:16):
Because there’s been some lows, there’s been some lows and I can skim over them. But out of respect for all parties involved, I shun. So the story is that there was another Facebook group that was very similar and me and a few members weren’t quite happy there. So I messaged a friend of mine and said, Hey, why don’t we create our own group? We’ll run it the way that we want to. It’s quite simple. It’s really not hard. It doesn’t take a genius to work out how to run a nice friendly group. My good mates Dion, Tim and Kane, they’ve got comics and toys, which I’m a mod of Grail Hunters. They’ve got a great little community there too. So Nick and I, we created Aussie omnibus collectors and it was pretty good, man. It is very good actually. It’s a success I’d like to say.

(13:18)
And through that we started a bit of a weekly chat. We just do it live on Facebook every now and then. I had the idea, look, why don’t we just make a YouTube show? We trialled it out. We did it for a while with the original crew. It didn’t work out for different reasons. So when that fizzled, I sat back and I’d met Mark Rod Watson, who’s one of the other members of Aussie verse. I had another couple of mates like Sharif, and we said, look, do you want to try something else? And they said, yeah. We sat back and we said, what do we want to do? We came up with the name and it’s been kicking goals ever since then. In saying that though, it’s been very slow in the last probably three months. There’s been some things happening with everybody involved personally, nothing bad, but just people’s jobs and family and things like that. But we’re all here, we all still want to continue and we’re all still trying to have fun.

Leigh Chalker (14:16):
Oh, that’s the logistics of it, mate. Hey, like I stand that too. Sometimes it doesn’t hurt to have a little bit of time off. You come back and you’re reenergized and super pumped and ready to shoot off into the next stratosphere man that you’re targeting. But I would say you’re pretty successful man with things. Well thank you. You are well genuinely. I’ve watched you quite a few times mate, man, bear with me. Steven M Cloud love the groups that pop up loving all things comic related. I do do love omnibus over individual comics purely for space and ease of reading. There you go. Thank you for watching Steven. But yeah, no, I would say you’re successful men got quite a lot of followers and stuff like that, regular audience and things like that, you’re also all ears. So super enthusiastic when I watch it.

(15:16)
I like that. Sometimes you have a little bit of a, well sometimes you don’t quite so much disagree on a movie or something that someone else is rather enthusiastic about, which I always have a chuckle at because hey, it’s like everyone’s got their own tastes and stuff. But mate, what do you reckon of, we’ve touched a little bit on the omnibus side of things and the comic collecting, which we will come back to, but Aussie versus also pop culture related. So you guys talk about movies and all the other things that go through with it. So what’s your favourite comic book movie you’ve seen in the last say, two years, man? Purely.

Beau Roth (16:06):
Wow, okay, the last two. You know what, I’ll just say the most recent one because it was really recent and it was really good and it was Guardians of the Galaxy Free. I dunno if that’s my best of the last two years, but I’m going to cheat and just say that it was really, really good.

Leigh Chalker (16:23):
Yeah, okay, fair enough. So recommended then. Hey. Yeah,

Beau Roth (16:26):
Yeah, definitely.

Leigh Chalker (16:28):
Yeah. Are you a Marvel movie fan or a DC fan?

Beau Roth (16:33):
I don’t know. Is there such a thing as a DC fan or are they just non Marvel fans that read other No, I’m joking. Of course it’s Marvel fan. I’ll always be a Marvel fan. I do enjoy some DC stuff as you can. The camera is on the DC shelf, so it makes me look like I’m a DC fan. But no, I’m definitely a Marvel fan.

Leigh Chalker (16:56):
Well, you can’t get caught fibbing there, can you mate? Oh no. Well giving,

Beau Roth (17:02):
When it comes to the DC events and classic runs and things like that, I’ll always enjoy it, but I don’t read DC monthly, not like Marvel.

Leigh Chalker (17:14):
What’s your favourite Marvel at the moment other than Spider-Man,

Beau Roth (17:19):
For me that would be, let’s see, well actually Fantastic Four by Dan Slot. I’m a bit late that runs over now, but I’ve just started it and it’s surprisingly very, very good.

Leigh Chalker (17:33):
Now is that your latest omnibus?

Beau Roth (17:35):
No, that hasn’t been released in an omnibus yet. You know how I said that I’m always finding ways to save money on how to spend the money. Well, I’ve also decided in the last I think two months I’ve now gone digital for single issues and I’m even going to take it as far as trades because yeah, I spent too much money and I need to stop.

Leigh Chalker (17:58):
Yeah, no, fair enough, man. I know I did when I was younger. Alright, Steven’s back with another comment. So Guardian three was a good closeout for James Gunn Keen to see what he does for DC Peacemaker series is great, and I agree with the Peacemaker series. I enjoyed that. I had a good old chuckle at that, man. What do we got? White man, Eric last and Omnibus from Bode many moons ago. Hopefully that transaction went well.

Beau Roth (18:27):
Hopefully it did. Yeah.

Leigh Chalker (18:29):
Well we might be in a spot of the next comment, so hopefully it’s all pleasant.

Beau Roth (18:35):
Oh, rich Pages and

Leigh Chalker (18:39):
Graded 9.8, but it was a seven. Yeah, so okay, another one. When you buy it now we know that you’re digital, but when you are buying your floppies, it did so all good. The transaction went well, he said there. Thank you. There you go, Bo rest easy mate. With your floppies where you read ’em and chuck ’em on the bedside table or were you gently read them and then slab ’em?

Beau Roth (19:15):
That depends on my age. Definitely younger, definitely get rid of ’em. I was really naive man when it came to comics and what they were worth really, really naive. I’ve hardly treated the comics that I originally owned. Well, I’ve had to rebuy the ones that I cared about. If I cared about them getting in good quality and thinking maybe I could sell these one day again. In saying that, the only graded comics that I have is I’m a big, as you’re already aware, venom fans. So before I got addicted to the Omnibus game, I was buying every venom and symbi at first, anything in a slab. So first costume, first appearance, first this, first that. So yeah, I’ve still got all those.

Leigh Chalker (20:07):
Yeah, it doesn’t phase me either way, but I grew up in, when I grew up, man, it was like comics got red to death, you know what I mean? We read like 60 times and I often chuckle to myself now think there’d be people out there who’d just be horrified with how I treated comic books. But God, man, I’ve got comic books from dad, which are like the original Ditko and Spidermans and stuff like that. Then they’re barely hanging, they’ve still got their original staples and everything, but they’ve been red so many times, man, they’re barely hanging in together. They look like they’ve had coffee spilt on that brown and stuff. Look at ’em and things and the paper’s all real frail and stuff. It’s like when you go to a, I don’t know, easiest way to depict it I guess in picture is when you see people like, it’s like national treasure. When they go and get a book off the shelf and they put the white gloves on and stuff and they sit there and they roll ’em over, these things will fall apart, man. But hey, did I like them? I like reading them all comics net au in my team sizzle. I kept them in a produce box. Unbagged, there you go. Hopefully laying on top of each other man.

Beau Roth (21:33):
Oh, I couldn’t think of a worst box. Oh boy.

Leigh Chalker (21:38):
It was like you talking like a banana box, Shane, because it’s like those things, you leave them and they got the holes, the vent holes on the side and stuff, and you think it’s safe for 12 months. You come back and there’s like cockroaches and things all scuttle out of it and

Beau Roth (21:58):
Yeah,

Leigh Chalker (22:00):
I did that too.

Beau Roth (22:01):
No, no.

Leigh Chalker (22:02):
And they sucked as well because they had didn’t have straight edges. They had these weird little

Beau Roth (22:10):
Corners on ’em as well. So I don’t know how you stack your comic books in those boxes. Yeah,

Leigh Chalker (22:13):
Man. No, no. And you’d lay ’em down, then you might stand some up and then you’d pick the box up and you’d feel a more move forward and in the end I just gave up, man. But I feel your pain in this Shane. And same all the old school ports. Yeah, yeah. Jammed full. Yeah, God. Now I’m a bit more delicate, but Peter Lane, good evening mate. How are you Pete

Beau Roth (22:39):
Mate? I remember still going to the news agency and being able to get comics and they’d write them on them and they’d put the stickers on them and it used to kill me and you couldn’t get away with that today. People that destroy you, if you did that to comics, brand new,

Leigh Chalker (22:56):
I reckon today you’d have to find a news agent that would sell anything though.

Beau Roth (23:01):
It’s

Leigh Chalker (23:02):
Gone to the sneaky days where you can go in and pick up an aqua man or something like that for your lunchtime reading. Yeah, I remember being on lunches when I worked, that’s where I got majority of my stuff, man, when I was younger and every lunchtime we had this huge news agents in the shopping complex that I worked and it had two bays just full of comic books, man. You know what I mean? So every day you’d go in there and you just keep picking them every lunchtime. So in the end I ended up just having piles of the stuff laying around. I don’t even know why I bought half of it, but there are a few. That’s the risk you take, isn’t it when you’re voracious and you’re hunting down stuff. But

Beau Roth (23:49):
See that’s why

Leigh Chalker (23:51):
Agent standing orders, so they all had my name in on the cover. Oh man.

Beau Roth (23:57):
So that’s another reason why I like the collected editions because if you are done with a story, let’s say this green lanter one behind me, let’s say I’m done with that, I’m never going to read it again, I’m done. You know that you can sell those three books and go, that’s a collection there where with these single issues, man, I’ve got five copies of this that are really good, but one copy of this that’s not so good and this is not in the right order. It’s too much work for me these days. Too much work.

Leigh Chalker (24:28):
I understand that. I don’t know, I always just bought one copy and I missed that whole, what did they call that period when image started? The investor period went, I

Beau Roth (24:44):
Remember the age of mean. Yeah,

Leigh Chalker (24:46):
30 issue ones always. I just bought one of each comic man and prayed to God, it had stay together, but I was a bit a out of touch with what’s hot now and stuff like that because back when I was collecting comic books a long time ago, they only used to come with one cover and now there’s speculator. Boom, that’s it. Thank you Shane. And now there’s so many different bloody covers, man. You’ve got covers A and B and stuff and I see I look at Kickstarter campaigns and stuff and hey man, each to his own, we’re just talking here, it’s like if you do want to send in nasty letters, send them to Shane here. We happy to read ’em. But other than that, lots of love. But yeah, there’s some Kickstarters out there that have got like Man, 16, there you go. Thank you for the email mate. Just 16 covers variance A and B and C and D and stuff like that. So if you were collecting Bo, would you go and buy the 16 covers or would you be selective and buy one or two of them?

Beau Roth (26:08):
So once upon a time I would, which is why I get that mentality because at the end of the day, man, everybody collects what they want to collect and you can’t tell anybody how to collect what they want to collect. It is their own business. So anybody that has an opinion about other people’s collections is just we don’t want to hear it. You know what I mean? That’s my opinion anyway. So going back to your question, yeah, I would, hang on, I’ve got a completely off topic. Can you remind me, what was your question again? Sorry mate.

Leigh Chalker (26:44):
Yeah, it was if you were buying them, would you have bought the 16 variance or say two select ones?

Beau Roth (26:52):
So last year or the last two years for example was everybody knows there was one of the greatest venom runs of all time, right? Donny and I was buying cover after cover after cover because they were so beautiful, they were so amazing. There was just so many cool covers, man from so many good artists and I’ve got a mate, I’ll do a share. Ian Crawford, he’s in the same boat where he was buying so many covers too. And I wouldn’t want to pay the shipping alone from all these places in America because it just cost you an arm and a leg. So every time there was a cover out, he’d message me and go, Hey, are you interested in this one? And would combine shipping and well that’s had a jazz. So I’ve got this massive collection now of all this venom covers and I love them, they’re great.

(27:41)
However, they just sit in a box now and yes, I can go to the box and I can appreciate them, but my way of collecting again my version is to be able to display everything and it, it’s like art as well. It kills me, man. I go to Comic-Con and Supernova and I see all of these artists that are just absolutely phenomenal and I want to put money down and go, I want that, I want that, I want that. But I’ve just got nowhere to put it. I’ve just got nowhere to put anything. So my shelves are just going to have to do, mate. So back to your question. No, not anymore. I don’t do it anymore. In fact, I have got so many comics now that I want to sell that I just can’t be bothered because dealing with the public of individual issues is just something I’m going to, yeah, I’d rather sell in bulk. Anyone wants to buy comics in bulk. Hit me up.

Leigh Chalker (28:36):
Yeah. So in that room that you’re in, is it wall to wall with bookshelves with the only space being the door? Yeah,

Beau Roth (28:46):
Yeah, yeah.

Leigh Chalker (28:49):
It’s impressive and you should be proud. It’s a hell of a collection already just from seeing that little section there, man.

Beau Roth (28:56):
Yeah, so look, I am proud and I am happy because a couple of years ago I looked around at my collection and there were nothing but trades and some hard covers and I said to myself, how good would it look if I had just a wall of omnibus? And I went, oh, I’m too late to the game now. There’s no way I’m going to be able to catch up on that. And I don’t have ’em all, but I’m pretty close. I’m pretty close man. So I am proud, however, it is nearly a whole room and I’m lucky that I have a partner that accepts the room, but she’s not going to accept two. So that’s where the selling comes in now and prioritising of hard covers and trades and all that sort of stuff.

Leigh Chalker (29:42):
Yeah, yeah. So how many Omni buses would you think are in your collection, mate?

Beau Roth (29:48):
I don’t have to think. I have a thing called CLZ

Leigh Chalker (29:52):
And that

Beau Roth (29:53):
Tells me what it is and I’m looking at it every day, putting stuff in there. Omnibuses are up to I think 380.

Leigh Chalker (30:02):
That’s very impressive. That’s a hell of a lot.

Beau Roth (30:06):
Well, the trades were in the thousands and now I’ve got them down because as I said, I’m selling in bulk now. Now I’ve got them down to 900, so I’ve got a bit more work to do.

Leigh Chalker (30:23):
Yeah, that’s an awful lot. You’re an avid collector then, man. That’s good. So with your venom, the kicks, oops, Steven McLeod, here we go. I used to follow artist runs Bagley Larson Ser for Spidey, Hulk was Dale Kean, Jeff Pervs and Ser. Any artist are you currently following mate?

Beau Roth (30:51):
So Steve, it’s a very good question, man. Typically no, because I’m addicted to the character and their story, you know what I mean? So Spider-Man, venom four, whatever, I don’t care who’s writing it and I don’t care who’s drawing it. I will always read ’em, don’t care. However, there’s obviously some good artists that we all like different artists and if I find Mark Bagley doing something, or again back to covers, I say I don’t buy them, but if there’s a good Alto cover out there, especially if it’s Venom, I’m going to want to buy that too. So yeah, there is some artists,

Leigh Chalker (31:34):
Well, we’ve got a comment from Facebook user there. I used to follow artists too, but they kept putting restraining orders out on me

Beau Roth (31:42):
Then you do it wrong.

Leigh Chalker (31:46):
Oh, maybe that’s a topic we can get into later in the show, mate. I not to get a training order collecting artists, but yeah, no man, honestly, I didn’t realise that there were so many bloody omni buses. So you obviously collect them, get them from overseas. Do you get any locally, do you go to comic book shops regularly and hang out and stuff like that and pick him up?

Beau Roth (32:14):
It’s an online comic bookstore, but my favourite comic bookstore is one that I support a lot, comic Booker room and they’re based in Melbourne, so I get the majority of my stuff through him, them, whatever the shop is. But it’s actually quite a shame that you can’t give a yes to buying all of your stuff locally because it’s unfortunate, but it is cheaper a lot of the time to still buy it overseas. I talked to a couple of my American friends and when a new book comes out, they’ll say again, this Green Lanter for example, they’ll say is $125 and now here it’s like 230. So even with the conversion, it still doesn’t add up. So it’s really bad in the last three or four months actually, because standard Omnibuses used to be about 1 20, 1 30 where the big ones were about 180, and now it seems like the standard is about 180 and the big ones are about two 30. And who can afford that when you’re buying them a lot?

Leigh Chalker (33:29):
Yeah, yeah, very true. How much is a normal comic now though? That’s about 10 bucks, isn’t it? Something like that?

Beau Roth (33:36):
Yeah, I’d say about between seven and 10.

Leigh Chalker (33:40):
And that’s for I suppose the more popular ones, like your X-Men and stuff like that. It’d be like say seven to eight bucks and it’d be the harder.

Beau Roth (33:48):
And still you’re still, I mean put it this way, I’ve pre-ordered Immortal Hulk Omnibus, which it’s about 55 to 60 issues in the book. Each of those issues are about seven to $10 and the omnibus is about probably 220 bucks. I think I’m still saving money, not getting all the issues and getting the omnibus. I think you’d have to do the maths.

Leigh Chalker (34:17):
Yeah, yeah, no, no, it makes sense, man. Obviously you’ve got a voracious appetite for the medium, so you got to, and as you said, when you’re collecting large quantities like that, you do have to start looking at your, what’s the old saying? You look after your cents and your dollars will take care of themselves. And I think is the old saying, it may be incorrect there, but hey, it sounds good, so I’m going to stick with it for the evening works. Yeah, that’s right. It’s a sentiment that count. Save your money. All right, so Stephen McLeod, bet you have the Invincible omnibus run from Ryan Ottley and Robert Kirkman.

Beau Roth (35:03):
I do not. I do not, but I do have all the right there, all those 12. And Steve, are you going to get the omnibus? Well, they say the hardcover compendium because I really wanted to get those man, but when you drop, what, 80 bucks a hardcover and there’s 12 hardcover. I’m not going to replace those anytime soon.

Leigh Chalker (35:32):
No, obviously I like that. Steven’s a huge comic fan, man. He’s always popping in and out of the shows and stuff. Always good to have Steven come in with his comments too, man. So keep him coming. Steven

Beau Roth (35:45):
From memory, Steve, we liked the same spectacular Spider-Man run Albu semi. I think I have a really bad memory, but if that’s correct, I’m very impressed with myself.

Leigh Chalker (35:58):
Well, is that the one that was back in the late eighties, early nineties sort of,

Beau Roth (36:03):
Yeah, yeah, with tumour and all them mate. Great. Yeah, there you go.

Leigh Chalker (36:08):
Yep, there you go. Both see, Hey man, you’re on a roll tonight, bud. It’s like you got two victories. I’ll tell you what, you’ll be floating,

Beau Roth (36:16):
Things come in freeze.

Leigh Chalker (36:19):
Yeah, you’ll be bulletproof, man. Which is good. We always positivity on the Tuesday chin wax, so any positivity is good positivity I reckon. But when you’re getting your info for all the pop culture and stuff like that, moving away from the omnibus for a tick, are you also obviously a voracious information hunter? Or when the Aussie verse all gets together, have you all got your strengths, like you are the omnibus man and grs like the movie dude and the other guys like audio?

Beau Roth (37:05):
Yeah, I mean the thing, yes and no. The thing that I do like about our group is that we’re not all the same because if we were, you wouldn’t want to watch anything. You know what I mean? I give GR and Sharif a lot of crap on the titles that they choose to read. Sharif always gives me crap about the books that I’m spending my money on, but then there obviously there’s a giant passion in the middle for the stuff that we do read. So no, I don’t think we’re that different, but we’re not that the same either. I hate Sports, man, I can’t stand him. I’m a big wrestling fan and Mark is all about sports, man. He loves it and I just can’t wrap my head around it. So yeah, each to their own, but where do we get our information from? I just see articles and it’s funny because I think I’ve got my finger on the pulse and then Sharif or Mark will send me an article, or even better my mate Ryan will send me, or even better Nick, he will turn around and give me a spoiler on Spiderman.

(38:15)
And I’m like, where are these guys getting this info from? And I’ve just got no idea, but I’m glad that I’ve got friends to that share the stuff with me.

Leigh Chalker (38:23):
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Always handy to have a little bit info in the back pocket, mate. Especially when you’re doing shows too. Oh, there’s that. I can’t keep up with it, man. I don’t really read it all the time. It’s like one week someone’s playing this person and then two days later that person was never in the running for that person and it’s gone to someone else who doesn’t know anything about it and it’s like, yeah, whatever. It’s cool. It’s tricky, man. I’ll just wait until the poster comes out, man. It’s like much info for this old head man. It’s positively going to pop. If it gets any more info, let me tell you. Yeah. Yes indeed it is. It’s bulging. I’ll turn into the leader soon enough. Steven used to get his info from Wizard Magazine back in the day, so I actually, and I’ll tell you what Steven would agree with this. Back in the day, I think comics maxed out and newsagent from memory about 3 95 or something like that. And then you’d get Wizard come out and there was another one too called Comic Scene I think, and they were like $15 books. Man, when you lashed out on one of them, they were good reading. But when you’re a young fella saving you lunch money and stuff,

Beau Roth (39:49):
Well you know what they’re releasing now. Marvel age omnibus.

Leigh Chalker (39:56):
Really?

Beau Roth (39:57):
Yeah. Do you remember the Marvel age?

Leigh Chalker (39:59):
Yeah, it had all Peter Parker and stuff in it like that, all those classic, I guess, what was that? That was an info and sort of a bit of a mad magazine sort of? Well,

Beau Roth (40:12):
It was the internet and comic news before the internet. It’s where we would get all the, oh, they might be doing this and they’re going to be doing that and it’s going to be be very interesting to read that back now in 2023. All the things that didn’t happen and all the things that they wanted to happen. But I can’t imagine reading a whole omnibus of it though.

Leigh Chalker (40:37):
Someone will

(40:40)
Sit there man and read every word of it. I used to how they used to do a creator spotlight as well because now with the internet you can see who the creators are, you know what I mean? And who Larry Stro is or Rob Fel, that sort of thing. But back in the day, I think it was in Marvel age, and the bullpen bulletin I think was the thing in the back, they used to do caricatures of the creators and then they’d have the questions, what do you like to eat? What are you drawing? That sort of stuff. And they’d sit there and used to blow me out when you’d actually see them in a photo or something in Wizard Magazine. But how times have changed, man, like my God, it’s a lot easier now getting info than it was back then. Yeah, and I’m sure my mother and father were not happy when I wanted to buy the $15 Wizard magazine and comic scenes and stuff. So it’s much happier when I went to 2000 ad, which was a dollar 25 I think, when I first started getting it. So you were talking about saving some money before. It’s like what?

(42:01)
Which is cool, but good memories. I remember lots of stuff like that, man. Now the other thing I want to get into you with is because this relates to your comic book stuff as well, your love of wrestling, because I watched the Friday night drink and draw with you a couple of weeks ago and you look like you just couldn’t get enough info out, man on your level, appreciation positively popping down the bottom. It was full on Bo, you were Stro man.

Beau Roth (42:43):
Yeah, it’s something I’m a little passionate about, maybe a little too much.

Leigh Chalker (42:47):
Yeah, that’s all right. Well, I’m going to allow you to tap that passion for us for a while tonight, mate. So what came first, the chicken or the egg wrestling, comics, comics, wrestling, what was it? How are they linked?

Beau Roth (43:03):
No. Yeah, it was definitely wrestling. Like I touched on the other show, my dad and my brother used to rent the wrestling and I was too young and I just didn’t like it. I wanted to watch real fantasy, immature stuff, kids shows, and I used to be so bored and I used to play with my toys while they’d watch their wrestling, so I’d know who Hulk Hogan was and a couple of other characters. And it wasn’t until a few years later when Hulk Hogan fought Ultimate Warrior that I really saw the pageantry of it and I started getting into the characters Million Dollar Man and Mr. Perfect and Rick, the Model Martel and all of these over the top characters, ravishing, Rick, rude and the bush ones. All of them were just so comicy man that how does cheesy wrestling not fall into the same category as comics?

(44:13)
I’ve even been able to predict outcomes of storylines from wrestling just because I’m a comic book reader because you know that someone’s sitting around the desk at WWE studio is going, but the undertaker can come back to life and he can do this, and then he comes from the depths of hell and this is what will happen. It’s like, yeah, it’s this comics 1 0 1 man, and it’s just so entertaining and I’m so passionate about it because people that don’t know it or don’t understand it, and I don’t blame them because ignorance is bliss, ignorance is very, very different to stupidity. And just because you’re unaware of something, people look at wrestling and they think it’s stupid and I don’t blame them because when you look at it, it looks stupid. You’ve got grown men in their tights pretending to fight with the work with some pretty not great acting, and it’s really, really over the top.

(45:12)
However, when you work out, discover that these men are just like actors, just like ballet performers, just like anyone on a stage, they are doing something that not only risks their life but risks the other person’s life that they’re wrestling with each and every week live on television. And they’re able to walk away from that ring and say, I didn’t hurt you and you didn’t hurt me, but it bloody well looks like we did. That’s unbelievable. And then again, I feel like I’m repeating myself from the other show, but when you find out just how much they actually do hurt each other on top of that and they don’t complain and they still go through it, it’s mind boggling. There’s no off season. They’re wrestling all the time, they’re not paid, sorry, they’re independent contractors, so they don’t get any healthcare and time off and it’s a really unfair life, but it’s a life that they love doing. Just like you could say a struggling Australian comic book creator, they might say to themselves, this is not going to put food or pay my bills the way that I want it to, but this is the life that I’ve chosen and it’s a passion that I’ve got. Don’t tell me otherwise. And I’ve got a lot of respect for that.

Leigh Chalker (46:35):
Yeah, no, that’s fair. Cool, fair. Fair enough. Man, I don’t watch a lot of it myself, but I’ve grown up around it and I have friends that are quite voracious, not as passionate as you about it, but they will watch everything that is on. But just getting back to the injury, I remember vaguely, you’d know it better than me, but the Rock had made a comeback and he was facing John Cena, and this was one of the biggest things at the time, and I remember within 30 seconds of it or something, John Cena had ripped his shoulder out of his socket by accident or something and just destroyed the rotator cuff and basically poor old Rock just had the grin and bear it and get through the 15 minutes. So everyone was happy because he is the showman, you know what I mean? Which is fair enough that put him out of movies and business for nine, 10 months or something. Man,

Beau Roth (47:44):
That is all due respect. That is nothing compared to the other. One of the most famous ones is Stone called Steve Austin. He was fighting Owen Hart for the Intercontinental title and he was meant to win. He was meant to win the championship, right? And Owen does a pile driver on Steve and breaks his neck real life. And Austin, obviously he doesn’t know that his neck’s broken, but he knows that something is very, very wrong. And you can see the referee going up to him being like, Hey, is everything all right? And Austin’s like, I can’t move. And you don’t realise until obviously maybe a year later when Austin does an interview and tells you what’s going on, but he turns around, he goes, man, I didn’t know what was happening. I just couldn’t move. I knew that something was very, very wrong, but I was also meant to win the match.

(48:39)
And Owen the bad guy, he knows that something’s wrong as well, and he knows that he’s meant to lose. So he just sits there to the crowd and he’s showing off and wasting time while the ref checks on Austin and all this. And as he’s doing that, you just see Austin just turn his body around and he just drags his body over to Owen and he just taps him on his butt and weekly pulls him down and Owen falls down and Owen 1, 2, 3, Austin wins the belt and he’s just like that. And he found out he broke his neck.

Leigh Chalker (49:20):
That’s

Beau Roth (49:20):
Incredible, man.

Leigh Chalker (49:22):
Yeah, no, that’s pretty amazing. But my God showman. All right. Yeah, the other funny part is too, I was going to mention that Stevens beat me to it. So his comment was the wrestling was great, that the interviews after it were awesome as well. You got to see the characters and stuff. Do you have a particular character you like in wrestling that you follow? That’s your number one?

Beau Roth (49:58):
Yeah, there’s a few these days. I doubt you’d know him, but there’s a few guys now like Tomaso Champer is this guy that’s not that big, but he’s just such a damn good wrestler. He is, got so much heart, I just love him. There’s another one called Ricochet is like fricking Spiderman in the ring. You’ve got a guy from South Australia now, actually, man, the Aussies are taken over WWE e, which is something I never thought I would ever say. You’ve got this guy called Bronson Reed, and he’s an absolute fricking tank and he’s from South Australia and they’re calling him the Aussie destroyer. And it’s just unbelievable to me because now we’ve got off the top of my head, we’ve got at least five Aussies that are on the main show, just kick it ass man. And it’s so good to see.

Leigh Chalker (50:49):
Yeah, yeah, no, that’s good. I didn’t even know that, man. But you do seem sneaking into the UFCA lot more and stuff like that too, so it goes to show you any, you can get it if you want it, if you dream big enough, mate, and I guess you’re willing to have your shoulders ripped out of their sockets and other damages done. But passion, man, I’ll have no one to blame but myself. That’s how it is. And you’ll possibly knock yourself out going to sleep with one of those big omnibus and drops on your head and you won’t know who you’re the amnesia. How did Bo get that? Oh, he dropped the green.

Beau Roth (51:34):
I know, because there’s a gap in my collection. So that’d be the first. The first,

Leigh Chalker (51:40):
Yeah. Yeah. Would you be proud if the omnibus caught you? Would you put that on? That’s number one frame that wear that scar proudly.

Beau Roth (51:53):
I’d be proud if it was one of my real big thick ones and I just walked it off, then I could turn around and be like, yeah, okay. I deserve to keep reading Omnibus. Now

Leigh Chalker (52:04):
I have passed the test. It’s like I’ve knocked myself out with one. I will continue now. That’s crazy, but fun. So you’re in the wrestling and you’re seeing dudes doing these, well, realistically superhuman free. I mean, because that’s what they’re doing. Giant men, I mean acting, they’re sticking to the scripts, their peak physical condition, and when you see the behind the scene stuff, mad Spidery, here’s this Longhaired wheeler. But it was definitely not me mad. Sp we can narrow that field down. You would’ve been super enthused about where to go next. So was the comics at the time, did you get a real sense because there were no comic superhero movies out at that point, I guess either men,

Beau Roth (53:05):
No. Yeah, but anything with a Cape I’d watch from Banana Man to from, I’ve gone blank. It’s Mad Spidey if you’re still watching Good know. What was that? Was it Damon Wayans? Blo Man? No, he had a superhero comedy movie. I don’t know. The point I’m trying to make is that regardless of how bad it was, I’d still watch it. Hell mate, I saw Shaq in a fricking superhero movie, mate. I’m still going to watch it.

Leigh Chalker (53:36):
Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I remember watching that back in the day too, mate. So don’t cry because it’s blank, man. I remember that, Steven. Thank you. That’s

Beau Roth (53:47):
It. Blank man.

Leigh Chalker (53:49):
Don’t get too stressed out about that, mate, because I wasted two hours of my longtime steal as well, so I haven’t gone back for it. But yeah, it’s with the movies in relation to, I guess you can’t compare, I mean, no comparing, but just a topical sake because we’re Chin Waggon. Would you rather sit down and watch a movie a couple of times? It’s really good, or would you rather, I guess, envelop yourself in say a Disney plus series or one of the Netflix series?

Beau Roth (54:33):
So I love binge watching, man, my partner, and it kills me. So if I want something for right now, a movie’s good, but I don’t think in this day and age, because TV is very, very different now than what it was 20 years ago. Now TV is just as good as movies, production wise, actors writing all that. So you give me a real good show. Yeah, I’m down for that. I’m down for 20 hours and watching a show, man.

Leigh Chalker (55:08):
Yeah, yeah. Well that secret out. No wonder these omni buses aren’t being read Bo, come on. Mad Binger doesn’t have time for riding buses, man. Come on. What do you prefer? Do you prefer the Disney plus Marvel stuff or did you like the Netflix Marvel stuff that they did?

Beau Roth (55:32):
The Netflix originally? It’s hard because it’s like saying even a bad Marvel show, I’m still going to like, I didn’t like Miss Marvel very much at all, but I still was grateful that it was on, I guess, and it was a part of it. But yeah, man, nothing beats Dead Devil and Punisher on Netflix. If anybody else is saying that there is any other Marvel show that’s better than Dead Devil and Punisher, you’re lying because you’re just wrong.

Leigh Chalker (56:10):
Well, look mate, I have obviously not watched as many as you, but Claudia, that’s

Beau Roth (56:16):
My partner.

Leigh Chalker (56:17):
I can’t be watching the same show every day. There you go. Good on you, Claudia. See, we’re finding Secrets out Everywhere. New Night was great. Different but great. Yeah, it was. Okay. That’s the last one I watched actually was Moon Night and Sin City brought in a whole new generation of readers, and Watchmen did the same. Alan Moore was genius V for Vendetta. Yes, I would agree with all of that. I would agree with you both that I particularly enjoyed Daredevil, but people that know me around the traps know that I’m a pretty big Daredevil fan due to varying reasons. But no, I like those shows. Come on, the Howard Duck movie Beats Daredevil. Well,

Beau Roth (57:08):
Hang on. You’re talking about the Howard the Duck movie, beating the Daredevil movie.

Leigh Chalker (57:14):
He

Beau Roth (57:14):
Might be right.

Leigh Chalker (57:15):
That’s true too. So Facebook user, if you do want to clarify that, whether how the Duck’s better than the Daredevil Affleck thing, then let us know because yeah, I particularly thought the Daredevil, Electra Punisher story arc on Daredevil was pretty good, man in Netflix. I like that one. Do you think there’s been a bit of a downturn in people’s interests of Marvel at the moment? And if you do, do you think that’s due to, I mean, these are billion dollar companies here, man, so it’s like, I’m not saying I’m not putting Myness, you know what I mean, against theirs. We are just purely talking. So what are your thoughts on that? Man,

Beau Roth (58:07):
I think Marvel have put themselves into a position that was inevitable. They’re very lucky to be in, but because of the position they’re in, they’re now the target for a lot of crap. And that’s the position that anybody who’s the biggest, the best, the top, it’s tall Poppy syndrome, but has it gone down? Yeah, I think generally that’s what people believe, but I disagree because I think people forget that to get to end game, Avengers End game, you needed 10 years of world building and how many movies right now? So from Iron Man one to End Game, all of that’s done right now. We’re pretty much starting at the beginning again so that you can get to another end game moment because that’s the goal, right? You can’t do that again without, because you’ve lost Captain America, you’ve lost Iron Man, you’re probably going to lose Thor.

(59:16)
You’re going to lose the Guardians. We need new characters. So I think people are just shortsighted and they don’t realise that by the time, hopefully I’m right anyway, but by the time the next Captain America comes around, by the time Thunderbolts comes around, Daredevil, the show comes around and we get to Avengers, Kang War, and then especially Avengers, secret War, man, everybody’s going to turn around and go, oh, okay. That’s why Moon Night was there. And that’s why Miss Marvel and she hulk and wander and all this sorts of crap because I’m telling you, man, my prediction, you heard it here first. If you thought the three Spider-Man in the latest Spider-Man movie was the most mind blowing thing that you’ve ever seen, that is going to be nothing in comparison to what Avengers Secret Wars is going to be. Because that thing is going to be, that’s going to be huge, and that’s going to make all of this stuff that people are bored with worth it. My prediction,

Leigh Chalker (01:00:25):
It’ll be so big, they won’t have screens big enough to show it, mate. From that enthusia,

Beau Roth (01:00:32):
From what I’ve seen, from what I’ve seen and heard, it’s just going to be massive. Oh, and I forgot Deadpool as well. The new Deadpool movie that’s coming out is going to be the Fox Marvels Universes Swan song, and that’s how they’re going to end that. So then what’s a good way to bring everybody that’s ever existed in marvelled properties before? Secret Wars baby.

Leigh Chalker (01:00:58):
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I look forward to seeing how they go with how Marvel goes with Fantastic Four and the X-Men Man, to be honest with you, because I was, what was I, about 22 when the first X-Men movie dropped at the cinema, and at the time from Memory Blade was a similar maybe a year before or something, and the first X-Men movie came out, well, different. That was, Hey, these dudes are on screen and stuff. Well, since obviously then X-Men are probably a little bit hit and miss and ski whiff and who knows what’s going on really. But I’m looking forward to seeing how they go with how Marvel handles the X-Men were my big serial in comic books. I love them, man. I got hundreds and hundreds of them in a row. I love the drama, so I can understand where you’re coming from. Adam Driver, rumoured to be Reed Richards, Margot Robbie, Sue Storm. Well, there you go. Some big names. And so I can understand your love of drama and stuff like that with wrestling,

(01:02:28)
But I’d love to The little boy inside of me, man, this comment’s going to come from when I was growing up too in the eighties. I didn’t get a choice what I watched, because I had uncles and aunts and uncles and aunts used to have to babysit me, and I was the uncool little five, 6-year-old running around while they were about 17, 18 and stuff like that. And they got to choose the movies, which going back that far were also on beta cord. So that’s how far we’re going back. And I was subjected to some, you probably wouldn’t sit your kids through them in this day and age, I would say there was some pretty wild stuff. It was very open. Movies used to teach some people some things that you just don’t learn in school, mate stemming back. But I’m hoping, I’d love to see a Wolverine

Beau Roth (01:03:38):
Look accurate. Wolverine.

Leigh Chalker (01:03:39):
Yeah, Logan was good. I liked Logan. It was a good movie, but there’s just something about a dude with six metal claws running around carpets and stuff up, man, that would be quite entertaining from a,

Beau Roth (01:03:58):
I want to see a Wolverine that’s actually short. He’s meant to be, and I just think that’d be great if we see him in a lineup with the new X-Men, and you just see this wolverine growling like that. I think that’d be really, really cool.

Leigh Chalker (01:04:13):
Well, apparently back in the mid nineties or something, man. Now here we go. This is going back. I’ve got to remember, I think it was James Cameron was, and I would’ve read it in a Wizard magazine or somewhere. So there you go. Coming back to all that sort of stuff, was going to do either a Spider-Man movie or an X-Men movie. Yeah, Spiderman. And the dude that he wanted was going to cast as a wolverine in however Wolverine was presented in whatever film was Bob Hoskins. I remember that, man. I like, I’m with you, bro. I like the idea of the little short stocky.

Beau Roth (01:04:58):
Yeah, but not Bob Hoskin though.

Leigh Chalker (01:05:01):
Yeah. Well, come on, let’s, why the hate for Bob Hoskins, man. Oh,

Beau Roth (01:05:10):
No, no, no, no. Hate for Bob Hoskins. The guy’s great when he is chasing a rabbit, but I don’t know if he’s great when he’s being Wolverine. I mean, come on. I dunno.

Leigh Chalker (01:05:22):
I dunno.

Beau Roth (01:05:24):
You know what? Now that I’m thinking about it, I’m starting to be convinced that maybe you could do it too much. I’m getting too much of a Danny DeVito in my head. I think that’s more problem.

Leigh Chalker (01:05:34):
Oh, oh, there’s this one missed casting moment. Danny DeVito was Wolverine. There you go. Great. Mind alike. Yeah. Danny DeVito. Yeah. Yeah. Could see that. Who’s some other short dude out there?

Beau Roth (01:05:48):
No, no. What you got to do is in this day and age, you got to get a guy who cares what his actual height is because it doesn’t matter. You can just do the whole CGI thing that they do in the movie, making him whatever height they want, just get whatever actor you want. They could get the tallest actor in the world and he could be, they could get the dwarf from Game of Thrones and making the fricking Ant man if they wanted to. Why can’t they do it the other way?

Leigh Chalker (01:06:15):
Well, this is true. Like go the Lord of the Rings direction, like where they had the fellowship all lined up and they’d left a little trim of blue screen around themselves. It was like an aura.

Beau Roth (01:06:31):
There’s nothing they can’t do these days.

Leigh Chalker (01:06:33):
Oh man. There’s nothing they can’t do. Well, we got Tom Hardy was a missed opportunity for current Wolverine. Chose Hamm, Taryn Edgerton, Daniel Radcliffe. Names were thrown around for Wolverine. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What are your thoughts on that, Bo?

Beau Roth (01:06:50):
I’ve got a lot of respect for Daniel Radcliffe. You like

Leigh Chalker (01:06:53):
Harry Potter as Wolverine.

Beau Roth (01:06:56):
So I’m not a big Harry Potter fan, but I do have a lot

Leigh Chalker (01:07:01):
Thumbs up to you there. Neither am I, buddy.

Beau Roth (01:07:03):
But I do have a lot of respect for Daniel Radcliffe because that guy could have just never acted again. And the fact that he continues to act constantly, that’s what gives me a lot of respect for him. And I like Edgerton. I think he’s good too. Who was the first option? I remember disagreeing with Tom Hardy. Yeah. See man, God, I used to love Tom Hardy Intel. He did Venom. Tom Hardy, I used to believe could do anyone at anything. Is

Leigh Chalker (01:07:35):
There a little bit of bitterness there?

Beau Roth (01:07:38):
Yeah, there is. There is, man.

Leigh Chalker (01:07:40):
Oh man,

Beau Roth (01:07:41):
God. Venom films, man.

Leigh Chalker (01:07:44):
There’s

Beau Roth (01:07:44):
So bad. They’re so bad. What

Leigh Chalker (01:07:48):
Was so bad about it, babe?

Beau Roth (01:07:51):
What wasn’t so bad about it? Man, especially the second one. Okay, so the first one you can turn around and you can say, you know what? Fair enough. They dunno really what they don’t know what they’re doing. They’re just trying something. I get what they’re trying to do, but then after they’ve made the first one and you hear all the criticism and hear all the good stuff, one, they’re going to make a sick movie, man. And not only that, they’re bringing in carnage and then they just stuff it all up like that. I’m getting hot now. I’m getting angry. It’s not good. I haven’t even gone into why it was a bad film, but I don’t need to. It was just bad. Both of them were bad

Leigh Chalker (01:08:36):
Mate. You don’t have to convince me that it was bad. I just wanted to see your reaction. As you’d mentioned a couple of times, you’re a

Beau Roth (01:08:42):
Man fan. It’s one of those things I put on and it’s like eating a meal that you know is healthy for you and you just hate it and you just like, I’ve got to get this down. I’m glad it exists and it’s good for me, but God I hate it.

Leigh Chalker (01:08:56):
But are you going to go back and eat the same meal if it tastes bad like 20 times, man.

Beau Roth (01:09:01):
But it’s the only way I get to eat the meal though. So I have to sometimes,

Leigh Chalker (01:09:07):
I don’t know man, I walk away if I see something that bad, it’s like once would be enough for me. It’s like, oh God, I can’t go back. But I did try out that Venom part two total carnage or whatever it was, and

Beau Roth (01:09:32):
It was horrible.

Leigh Chalker (01:09:35):
It was more of the same, really what made me laugh is like, here’s Venom at 90 minutes Carnage Mate. And then they bring out they’re going to save the franchise. They’re going to bring out a better movie. And what did it roll in it like 79 minutes or something. I’m

Beau Roth (01:09:56):
Thinking,

Leigh Chalker (01:09:58):
What? That’s weird.

Beau Roth (01:10:01):
And then one thing that really annoyed me at the end was when he goes to try, they go to eat his girlfriend and he is like, no, save her. And I’m like, that is not Carnage, man. Carnage would not give a crap. It’s like the Joker and Harley Quinn, the abusive relationship and you’re trying to just get stuffed. Get stuffed.

Leigh Chalker (01:10:27):
Oh, that was not carnage. Yeah, no. Yeah. Not the character wise anyway, because yeah, carnage was a good comic book character. Yeah, I was lucky enough to be around for those. Phantom could have needed Howard the Duck. I mean you never know they’re bringing in the multiverse. You could see Venom fighting back to back with Howard the duck mate. Wouldn’t

Beau Roth (01:10:51):
That be, dunno.

Leigh Chalker (01:10:53):
In modern days, what would you prefer to see? Would you prefer to see CGI heavy or would you prefer to go back to animatronics and puppets and stuff like that? What do you prefer?

Beau Roth (01:11:09):
So I dunno how good your eyesight is, but you obviously wear glasses like myself and my eyesight is pretty bad. So I’m not one of these people that has ever looked at anything ever CGI and gone. Oh, I don’t like the way that looks to me, I’m always just in awe going, ah, that’s awesome. So I’ve always been a fan of CGI. However, yeah, when you do look at old things like Labyrinth and stuff, it’s like, yeah, you do miss the Jim Henson practical stuff. It’d be good to see more of that these days, but do I really care? No, not really. I guess whatever gives people more jobs and makes a better movie.

Leigh Chalker (01:11:55):
Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, that’s cool. I know I’m a big Star Wars fan. Very big. The first Empire Strikes Back was the first movie that I ever saw in a cinema. I was about two, three, something like that. Went with my uncles and aunt. They dragged me along and blew my mind. And I always liked, I’ve always had a little soft spot for the animatronic and puppets and stuff and I liked how they incorporated that into these later ones that came out. The Kylo Saga, I don’t even know what they call it, man, the force, stuff like that. But I always liked that little intermingle mix of the technologies. Man, I reckon it sort of gives it a little bit of longevity. Hey, because just adds a touch because when we got Steven MacCleod GMO del Toro a big fan of Practical Effects, Hellboy one and two was great. Yeah, it certainly was Shane. He never got to do a third one. I would’ve liked to have seen that. Having said this, I’ll throw it out on the show and this will get some haters. I didn’t mind the Hellboy with M Mate from Stranger Things playing Hellboy. I didn’t mind that it wasn’t as bad as what everyone would suggest. I don’t, I need to watch that one again. They’re making

Beau Roth (01:13:28):
Yeah, I heard that

Leigh Chalker (01:13:32):
Rebooting and reboot man,

Beau Roth (01:13:34):
I can’t believe that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It’s one of those articles that I didn’t actually click on and read, but I saw the headline and I went, if that’s real, I’ll see that article again. And I saw it again and I still didn’t click on it. But it must be real. People are talking about it.

Leigh Chalker (01:13:50):
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well it’s real man, because I was quite surprised by it, to be honest with you. Yeah, that they’d do it so quickly, Lee, to each their own. Thank you Nick. I’m still trying to look like you, man. Okay. What is it? Imitation is the greatest form of flattering. Nick David Arbour was a great actor. Terrible script though. Yeah, fair enough. I didn’t mind it. It was okay. But everyone’s got different taste as Nick just alerted us to. So when you think of, what do you reckon is going to happen now that the bloke that’s playing Kang is in the media for all of the wrong reasons, not guilty until not you’re innocent until proven guilty and all that J. But just for topical conversation, if Marvel were to just do the whole net, like see you later buddy, do you reckon they’ll get someone else in to play Kang or do you think they’ll retrofit it so that another villain comes in to float into the main tag role? Man, what do you think?

Beau Roth (01:15:12):
So some sources are saying that marvellous, scrambling now to change the plans, which I don’t know how accurate that is because they’re next. Avengers film is named after King. I think the easiest thing to do would just to be recasting. However, the problem is, is that his character is, I don’t know if it’s just me or not, but with that scene at the end of Antman that showed all the Kangs, it’s going to be very hard to be able to recast him when his character is based so purely on the way that he looks because you had 50,000 million different. Well now if you recast him, it’s going to be a bit weird. However, maybe I’m overthinking it, I don’t think they’re going to do anything different yet. I think they’re just putting a bit of a pause on it for now. But anything is speculation mate. Anything is speculation. I don’t think anyone that says they know is lying.

(01:16:26)
Time will tell. I mean it’s like the Ezra Miller thing with the flesh at the moment for the last year and Amber heard in Aquaman for the last year. Everyone’s like, nut, they’re going to cut ’em out nut, they’re going to do this nut, they’re going to do that. No, they’re not even going to release the film. All these rumours and look what’s happened, flashes out now this week or next week. And they may have lessened the media hype on Ezra Miller himself and focused more on the Superman and Batman angle of things. But as far as I can tell, he hasn’t been cut out of of any of it. So yeah, I guess it all depends on how guilty he is.

Leigh Chalker (01:17:10):
Yeah, indeed. No time will tell. Steven was just saying he’d heard, read a rumour that Dr. Doom possibly replacing Kang and Ezra Miller may have given flash. Hope so. Yeah, we’ll see. But flashes out in a couple of weeks. So one question that I have, and I know I’m being a little bit Marvel centric here, but I’ll be honest with you, I was a big Batman fan and DC Okay. I’ve got a few filtered in there, but I predominantly Marvel. Okay. So I guess that’s why I just sort of stick to Marvel. Cause I don’t really know much about DC other than Batman to be honest. And there other things like Constantine and that sort of stuff, I sort of veered off into those directions as opposed to Amans and stuff like that. But no disrespect to anyone that likes them because there are great stories and they’re classics, great artists, great writers and stuff, and to each his own, but man, so Earth currently in the Marvel movies has a giant head and a hand sticking out of it. It doesn’t do from a Les Steel. Right. How has this not been brought up? Do you think this is something they may have missed in the writer’s room? I’m not sure. Did they not get the p and o fair sponsorship so they thought they wouldn’t stress too much about mentioning it at the moment?

Beau Roth (01:18:59):
It is odd. It’s odd that it’s not in there, but I think again, from what I’ve heard that will be answered in either Captain America the next movie or the Thunderbolts. Because again, from what I’ve seen, some of the metals on that celestial is worth a bit of money and it could possibly even be vibranium or atium.

Leigh Chalker (01:19:30):
Ah, right.

Beau Roth (01:19:31):
If that’s the case. Well yeah, so I think time will tell.

Leigh Chalker (01:19:36):
How long do you think it’ll take for them to strip that head? Are they at it now? Did they need five movies to strip it down? I mean these are just the weird things I think about, mate.

Beau Roth (01:19:51):
The reason why I go back to my previous comments about how I think people need to be a bit more patient, which I guess people could say, well we’ve been patient enough. And it’s kind of hard to argue that there are things that I believe are coming that are really going to accommodate very, very soon. Because not only do we have all this multiverse crap that’s going on at the moment, but one of the big overarching subplots in the Marvel universe that’s happening right now is there’s going to be a change in leadership in politically. You’ve got the kingpin that’s going to be back. You’ve got General Ross who is going to be higher than a general soon, let’s just say there’s an error in comic known as the Dark Rain era. And I dunno if you’re familiar with that.

Leigh Chalker (01:20:45):
I have heard of it, yes.

Beau Roth (01:20:48):
I believe Marvel are going to be doing something along those lines with what’s coming. And that’s kind of exciting. That means you’re potentially going to be having Thunderbolt Ross’ Red Hulk with the Thunderbolts. You’re going to be having the Fantastic four come, which I’m hoping one theory that I want to happen is that the Fantastic Four actually were there from the beginning and one of their first missions actually sent them back in time and they’ve only found their way back into today’s time in the Fantastic four movie. And that sort of explains where they’ve been this whole time. So I think once a few key projects are out, fantastic. Four, Deadpool, captain America and Thunderbolts. I think once all those are out, it’s going to be a very different Marvel universe.

Leigh Chalker (01:21:45):
Yeah, yeah. No, well I just like to think Obtusely man about certain things. One thing about comics is you can think about completely random stuff. It’s a beautiful world, but you may be onto something there, man. They’ll always figure it out. I mean, God, look at the comic books, man. You can string out a story for five or 600 issues. You know what I mean? You could certainly got plenty of material to mine for movies and that. But I’m going to briefly move you now and draw your attention to Optimistic Bow would be a better name. I’m going to bring you to DC So pop culture to keep the Snider verse or to get rid of the Schneider verse, what are your thoughts on that argument, even though now they’ve gotten rid of it, they’re veering off. But you,

Beau Roth (01:22:44):
If I give you a definitive answer about saying that I want the S verse, does that mean that I automatically do not get whatever other universes now coming? Is that the Snyder verse only or is it the Snyder verse as well as this other universe? That’s two different things, man.

Leigh Chalker (01:23:02):
Yeah, yeah, no, it is man. And look, I hadn’t thought, here we go. I hadn’t thought that deeply about the question and the ramifications to be honest. We’ll go with if you want to keep it, the new one will still come. You know what I mean?

Beau Roth (01:23:18):
Well then yeah, bring it on. Bring it on. Because I haven’t liked nearly any DC movies. There’s been a few exceptions, like Aquaman I really liked and Shaza the first one, but that Snyder cut of Justice League was really good. It was really good. I dug it a thousand times more than what we got in the cinemas. And again, if they didn’t have that extra scene at the end, which was the future joker teaming up with them and evil Superman, I would’ve been happy for the Sni verse to die there. But I really want to see this bad Superman fight, the Justice League with the Joker on their side. Who doesn’t want to see that?

Leigh Chalker (01:24:05):
Yeah, yeah, yeah. No man. I actually quite liked the extended version of the Justice League.

(01:24:12)
I liked it as a movie man. I thought it was pretty good. All of the characters were satisfying to me. So hello, how are you going? MZM creations, thank you for watching. Thank you for the comment. But yeah, no, I enjoyed it too, man. But looking forward to the James Gunn stuff. Good on you Steven. The James Gunn stuff should be pretty good. I did like the peacemaker. I thought peacemaker was pretty funny. Yeah, it was funny. I did laugh out loud at some of that. That was one of those what you can do with a character I guess. But I mean, these are the things, man, the beautiful world of comics and what you can do with the imagination and I guess it’s off paper and pencils now. They’ve got plenty of money to make these things. I mean, it’d be a cool playground to play in. I mean imagine if you bow, imagine if they came to you and they said, man, pick an omnibus. We’ll give you 250 million bucks. Make a movie. You certainly wouldn’t say that anyway. It’d

Beau Roth (01:25:24):
Be, although I did remember a point going back to a couple of different questions that you asked about the same topic and that is the people getting sick of the Marvel stuff at the moment. I think the problem that Marvel have at the moment is that they’ve got too much humour and too much lightheartedness. When Marvel first made their movies from Iron Man, I remember them being really proud about how each superhero movie they do is going to be a different genre and how superhero movies aren’t going to be the genre anymore. You’re going to have Iron Man, that was what, I guess action or espionage, I dunno. Then you had the period piece with Captain America, you had the, God, I don’t know. The way that Fige described it back in the day was really well done because you’re right when he described the different genres out of those movies, you agreed with him. Where now a lot of it’s all the same. And I think you need your dark punisher out there. You need your lighthearted, you need your vicious m and wolverine, you need your team family. Fantastic for, and I think that’s what it’s missing now.

Leigh Chalker (01:26:41):
Yep, yep. I’d also go so far as to say please someone. Thank you Bo’s dressed impeccably for the evening. I just tossed this whole thing on before

Beau Roth (01:26:54):
I’m still in my uniform. I just put jumper on mate,

Leigh Chalker (01:26:58):
But that’s so am I mate. It’s alright mate. I just hope someone has a damn good crack at giving us a decent ghost rider. I got a little pension for Ghost Rider there too, man.

Beau Roth (01:27:11):
I didn’t mind the first one but the second one was bad.

Leigh Chalker (01:27:15):
Yeah, yeah, they were all pretty,

Beau Roth (01:27:17):
I mean the first one wasn’t great either, but I’m saying it’s watchable where the second one’s in the same category as Electra.

Leigh Chalker (01:27:26):
Man. Look, I’m, it almost shames me to say this after my venom tirade, but I have watched the Second Ghost Rider film twice and yeah, there were some parts in it that were okay, but yeah, probably

Beau Roth (01:27:50):
Enjoyed it more.

Leigh Chalker (01:27:51):
Alright,

Beau Roth (01:27:52):
Steve, like seeing people pee out fire and

Leigh Chalker (01:27:56):
Fair

Beau Roth (01:27:56):
Enough road.

Leigh Chalker (01:27:58):
Look, those little things, mate. But I mean, what do you do? I mean at least it’s there. Like we were saying before, regardless, but I think just Nicholas Cage might not have been my ghost rider from the start. And you know what? You know how you got irked with Venom? I love Ghost Rider. Okay. I’ve got a lot of Ghost Rider stuff, man. It’s like, right. I don’t understand what the fascination was about and it annoys me with the jelly beans in the First Ghost Rider movie Jelly. He had this thing for jelly beans. He was always

Beau Roth (01:28:37):
Oh yes, yeah,

Leigh Chalker (01:28:39):
Don’t get it. Yeah,

Beau Roth (01:28:41):
Yeah.

Leigh Chalker (01:28:43):
But maybe

Beau Roth (01:28:44):
It was an odd choice, wasn’t it? Yeah. Like an odd little quirk.

Leigh Chalker (01:28:47):
I mean maybe a Kit Kat or something like the jelly beans. Yeah. Not sure, but hey, I guess that was a call from Nick Cage. I’m surprised. What else is he known for? Didn’t he have No, that was Michael Jackson that owned the Man Skeleton or something.

Beau Roth (01:29:12):
Yeah, I was going to say Nick Cage is known for either doing the best movies you’ve ever seen in your life, or the worst movies you’ve ever seen in your life. Yeah,

Leigh Chalker (01:29:18):
Yeah. But are you a sucker for a Nick Cage film?

Beau Roth (01:29:21):
Oh yeah, I love him.

Leigh Chalker (01:29:22):
Yeah. You know when you see one A and you go, oh yeah, I’ll watch it. And you can tell it’s just him, I don’t know, in front of a crew,

Beau Roth (01:29:31):
Man. I’ll tell you what,

Leigh Chalker (01:29:32):
Watch it

Beau Roth (01:29:34):
When you’re done with this Go well you’re, you’ll be on YouTube, go look up, I think it’s called Sympathy for the Devil, and it’s a new trailer with Nicholas Cage that’s coming out. And boy, if you want to see a trailer that is just so Nicholas Cage and the movie is just so Nicholas Cage this movie looks like you.

Leigh Chalker (01:29:57):
Yeah, yeah. No, that’s cool. I am a sucker for Nick. I guess he’s moving a bit into that Steven Al Van Dam direction though, man, where I can’t remember the names of each of his movies. They’re all Wake Up Dead, went to Bed Dead, like Dead shot, dead Shot, all that sort of stuff. And you get 10 or 12 of ’em and you’re like, I just remember sequences. I don’t remember the names of ’em, but good on Nick more than Merri a man. He’s an entertaining guy and interesting fella. Now I’m with your, I’m glad that you think a bit the same about Marvel. I don’t watch a lot of them, but as someone that likes the comics, and there’ll probably be people out there reading or probably listening or probably say, I guess there is an element of a division with people. There’s a comic readers and there’s the people have got into these characters through the movies and stuff. And for me personally, it’s like, I think whichever way you get into it, mate, you know what I mean? It’s all in the same garden bed. So however, but I was always like, I do like the comics. That was my first thing. But I also grew up and I was young enough to remember the Spider-Man TV show. Have you ever seen the Spider-Man TV show where he was flicking rope out of his wrist and stuff and could old

Beau Roth (01:31:29):
Nicholas Hammond?

Leigh Chalker (01:31:31):
Yeah, yeah, I think

Beau Roth (01:31:32):
That was him. And yeah, I certainly did, mate. I used to read and it used to really weird me out because I didn’t know if that was movies or a TV show because the way that they distribute them on VHS was they’d be marketed as a movie, but then you’d find ones, and they did the same thing with the Captain America old movie too, where it was like you’d get an hour on an episode. I don’t know, it was just weird. I could never work out a movie or a TV show, but I used to watch ’em and yeah, they’re that Captain America one is actually on Stan for some reason now. Really? Yeah, but the Spider-Man isn’t,

Leigh Chalker (01:32:12):
Yeah. Yeah. That’s a bummer. Yeah. Oh man. I remember being young and that was the coolest thing ever to me. I thought that was so good. My dad was a huge Spider-Man fan. So I do remember thinking when the original loved that TV show, they spliced the TV show. There you go, the, oh, what was I going to say? Yeah, yeah. When Spider-Man in 2000 came out with Toby McGuire, I was always bummed, man because my dad had passed away by then and he was this massive, it’s what it is meant. But I remember sitting in the cinema at the time and watching Spider-Man and comics are weird because you only see stationary images. So from panel to panel, I guess in the theatres of your mind, you are relying on the artist and the writer to take you through to the next sequences and things.

(01:33:23)
So I grew up with the eighties and he was a bit clunky and that as I got older, but it was still cool. But then when I went to see Spider-Man with Toby McGuire, that first Sam Ramey one man, that blew my mind. I was just like, that was really cool. But that was another good one, iconic image, that one too, that poster of Spider-Man climbing up the wall and looking down onto the city below. That was one of the great images. Now mate, I’m going to be off. Oh, what was that? Nick Hammond was, where is it? Sydney Supernova this week. There you go. How’s that look that, and there he is. I contacted him earlier or Shane did he never coming because we would let him stay somewhere. Now as we wind down the show, Bo, because I’m having too much of a good time talking to you about drive and I like that, mate, I was talking to you earlier about a question I wanted to ask you because you’re a collector and to me it’s not just about creators and people that are involved in the community industry and stuff like that and printing comic books and things because it’s a cycle. It’s all symbi cycle mate, collectors, anything anywhere, anyone involved in it that reads these things, it all works together.

(01:35:00)
From an Australian myself, I’m interested to know this because I’m an Australian independent comic book contributor and creator as someone that collects omnibuses and things like that. What is your opinion that Australian creators, what could they do better to get their ips into people like yourselves hands? What do you think is lacking? What do you think the strengths are from a collector’s perspective? I’d love to get your two Bob’s worth on that

Beau Roth (01:35:42):
Off the top of my head and well look, it’s very easy to give an opinion without knowing all the facts behind it. So what I mean is that off the top of my head, my answer is marketing, right? It’s easy to say, Australian comic book creators need to market themselves more, right? Very simple to say, but however, someone’s got to pay for that. Now I’m being around enough to know how much these things cost an individual to not only put a book together, but if you’re going to go down the Kickstarter way as well, doing tier and things like sped, he had his slug. That was every little thing that you want to do is going to come out of your pocket. You hope to get that money back and make some profit out of it. So I know that I’m explaining it like that because I think it’s very arrogant to turn around and say you need to market yourself better because it’s not that easy, but without actually giving you the answer, marketing is very important because for example, when I go to a comic bookstore, I wonder why the Australian comics are only in the far corner.

(01:37:19)
Some of them are at the front desk, which is great, but a couple of them are in the far corner. Now obviously that goes with what the store wants to do and they want to put their best sellers at the front and all that sort of jazz. I get all that. Okay, fair enough. But I don’t understand how, I’ve got my own YouTube show. I’ve gone into comic bookstore and I’ve said to them, Hey, would you be interested in being interviewed on a show? And I get, not everybody’s cool with it, not everybody’s comfortable with it. Not everybody really wants to do it, but the amount of nos that you do get, it does surprise me because I think to myself, it’s not just the nos, but it’s the reason why it’s a no. One comic bookstore I went to recently, they are very popular and they’re very good comic bookstore.

(01:38:14)
I went up to them and said, Hey, would you like to be interviewed on the show? And they straight up just said, no, don’t have time for that. And that really surprised me because I just thought to myself, it’s an hour out of your week, maybe even half an hour. What’s the big deal now for all I know, these people may have too busy a life to do that. Fair enough. That’s fair enough. But I don’t understand how, if you’re running your own business, and let’s be real, as much as we love comics, it’s not really a thriving business. You’d think any opportunity that you’ve got to put your name out there to sell to market, you’d do that. And I get a lot of nos from a lot of different artists, people, and again, that might be, they might not, might just not want to be on my show, which is fair enough, they not like the show and they might want to be on other shows if that’s the case, fair enough.

(01:39:13)
But there are other artists that I’ve turned around, I’m like, Hey man, do you want to come on the show? I don’t care if it’s in six months, we’ll work it out whenever you want. And they’re always just too busy. And I just don’t get that. I just don’t get that because, and again, there might be people out there that will give me an answer as to why they’re always too busy to market themselves, but I just put myself in their shoes and I think, hang on, if I was creating anything and I could show it off to anybody, I’d want to do that.

(01:39:47)
And people don’t, there are some creators that are very introvert, which I understand as well. You might not have the personality to go out there and be like, Hey, I’ve created a comic, check me out. I get that. But then you need to find ways to, even if it’s free advertising, just get photocopies of your own cover and just start putting ’em all over the city or something. I don’t know. But there’s definitely not enough eyes on it and that’s something that needs to be fixed. I’ve really rambled a lot there. Without answering your question, I think.

Leigh Chalker (01:40:25):
No, it’s all valid, mate. All the points you raise because independent artists do pay for their own stuff. You do have to. I mean it’s a lot of factors. I mean we’ve spoken about it briefly on other chin wags, like the logistics of getting the comics into people’s hands. Plus it’s difficult. And you’re right, a lot of people that do this sort of stuff are introverted, believe it or not. I probably lean towards that side of things, but I’m not really a social animal, if you know what I mean. But I also appreciate missing the salesman factor. Exactly. Steven, I also appreciate that there is a hustle, you know what I mean? You’ve got to try and represent yourself, get yourself out there, get your product out there and things like that.

Beau Roth (01:41:28):
But it’s also about finding that line as well, because if you are too much of a salesman, well then people aren’t going to want to be around you and they’re like, I just wanted to look at a book, man. I didn’t really want to talk to this guy for so long, this guy that’s all in your face and buy my book. So it is a sort of balancing act. You’ve got to sort of, one of the reasons why I’m good in customer service is because I’m on the phone all day and the feedback that I always get is that I tailor the conversation to whoever the customer is that you’re talking to. Your conversation isn’t always the same every time. So if you are selling a book and you see somebody like a little kid interested in it, tailor that conversation to the kid. If a 40-year-old person’s picking up your comic, tailor the conversation to them. Something to get their eyes onto your book.

Leigh Chalker (01:42:20):
Yeah, yeah. Oh yeah, no, that’s fair enough. I think that’s pretty good answer. Bo, what do we got here? Facebook user. I remember Tad advertising Dark Nebula in the eighties, getting him on red faces on, Hey, hey, it’s Saturday Red Gonged too early. But heck, for a few minutes there, dark Nebula was in people’s attention, gave them something to connect when they saw the comic on the newsstand. A hundred percent. And I have seen, so I assume that’s you Chris sending in that stuff.

Beau Roth (01:42:55):
Another thing,

Leigh Chalker (01:42:56):
So I’ve seen plenty of photos of Tad with a gentleman dressed as dark Nebula going to comic book conventions and stuff too. And I mean that’s a brilliant way of doing it if you can find the individual that wants to represent your character and stuff like that. But mate, anything, absolutely anything, there’s nothing.

Beau Roth (01:43:17):
I think people need to put themselves out there though more because if you are like me and you talk so much about saving money on comics and books, then asking me to pay for your books that I dunno much about is a bit of an ask. On one hand, it’s 10 bucks let’s say. So it’s not that much of an ask, it’s 10 bucks, people have got 10 bucks. But on the other hand it is when it’s 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10. Now for me personally, I never bought Australian comics once upon a time because I just didn’t have the money for it. But then I would meet someone like Shane and I would get to know Shane and I’d get to know his personality, I’d become friends with him, then he would have something that he’s created and I would be interested in that. Then I would meet his friend.

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Sp, I think SP’s absolutely hilarious. I love that guy to death. And as far as I’m concerned, anything that guy writes, I want to fricking own because I just think he’s amazing. Now I’ve just met you for example, I can leave this conversation now and go that Lee, he was pretty cool man. He was a pretty cool guy. I liked his vibe and all that. That would probably translate into something that he’s created. So I think putting yourself out there, showing people who you are is a big part of it. I think networking. There you go. Yeah,

Leigh Chalker (01:44:47):
Networking and knowing your target audience for sure. Claudia Well said. I think they’re all valid points, mate. If it’s entirely possible, there’s a way. It’s just, I like different conversation pieces and I was thinking today while I was drawing that I’d get your two Bob’s worth on that man as a collector again, because out of all of these Chin wags, at least I’m a firm believer that if you can come away viewers and stuff and myself with even getting one piece of information that’s helpful to you, then that’s a good show, mate. You know what I mean? You haven’t walked away with nothing. You’ve learned something new. It’s given you something fruit to think about. I guess I like that. You can blossom somewhere else, but community support. Yeah, don’t be loner out there. You do. It’s all here. So Steven Cle, getting that foot in the door is a must salesman.

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The shit out of yourself. Comex community is a great place for new and up and coming artists here, mate. It certainly is. So to follow up on that, and I’ll come back to you in a sec though, but just with what Steven said about the Comex community, for anyone that’s listening for the first time, comics community is put together by Shane and Kerry and that’s what Comex is and it is a comic book, it’s a creator community of like-minded people and it is difficult sometimes in small rural towns or even in big cities and you just can’t get out like to see people, but to find people that are similar minded and stuff like that, this is an opportunity for you to stop by, join in, learn, show your stuff, start your networking slowly but surely get to meet people. There’s a lot of people other than myself on here. There’s people that have been in this business for 30, 40 years mate. You know what I mean? They’ve been publishing comic books forever and a day and everyone that I’ve ever met has always been happy and available to sit down and talk shop to you if you’ve got any issues and at least learn something and get on your way and you’ll get some help mate. And there’s a little bit of networking there. So it’s just one step and you’re there. And

Beau Roth (01:47:09):
If you are one of these people that genuinely just hate society but love reading comics, well comics has got your back because they have one flat shipping rate. That’s right. You never have to see people again. Just buy the off the website and it costs you one flat shipping rate. Isn’t that amazing? You can’t get that from Marble dc

Leigh Chalker (01:47:27):
Oh mate, I think that is amazing. That was the next section I was going to go into. Down the bottom, if you want some Australian comic books. The comic shop sells over a hundred titles and Australian independent creators from all echelons of the medium applying their wares. That is the website right there. And as Bo said, get excited. It is a $9 flat rate. You can get as many comic books as you want. You know what I mean? With whatever’s available and I would strongly recommend it. I would also, before I go any further, I do want one more quick question to you, bow before we head off mate. Why do you do it to yourself?

Beau Roth (01:48:10):
Be more specifically sir,

Leigh Chalker (01:48:14):
The comic books mate.

Beau Roth (01:48:18):
Why do I do it to myself? Okay mate. Oh God, that is a loaded question. They’re just the best things to read. I used to read novels, those things without the pictures. I used to read those. I haven’t read one of them in about 20 years because comics are just too good. They just are, man. Especially nowadays, the way they’re written. I mean it’s really good to get, when you read the older comics and you have all the narration and all that, which they don’t have anymore. It’s really good to go back and see that. But the way they are now, it’s really just reading a movie and they’re just amazing. They’re fantastic. I love them.

Leigh Chalker (01:49:04):
Yeah, that’s the ticket man. And whereabouts can we find you on the webs mate?

Beau Roth (01:49:11):
You can find me on Aussie verse at YouTube, Instagram, and probably a few other things that we don’t use like Discord. That’s something apparently Go look up Aussie verse.

Leigh Chalker (01:49:24):
Very good. Alright, well mate, it’s been a pleasure to have you tonight. It really has. I’ve enjoyed our conversation. It’s nice just to talk some drive about comic books, mate. So it’s is a beautiful medium. Conversations are plenty. Everyone’s got an opinion, all opinions are welcome mate. It’s all friendly. Now look, the other thing I do want to say is there’s a couple of things. There’s please like and subscribe the channels because that helps the algorithms and they’ve tried teaching me this tech talk, but it just hasn’t taken. So I decided to just try and fit in too many T words there and gave myself a tongue twister. Now on Friday nights, there is, thank you Steven. Thank you for watching, buddy. Thank you, Kerry. Friday night is the Friday night drink and draw. I do believe it’s episode 93 this week. Now that’s on the road to 100 and Sizzle and Spie, who we’ve just found out.

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Bo has a great appreciation for man crush. Yeah, man crush. There you go. It’s sped. He’s man crushable. He’s such a And quick Nicks on there as well. So the topic this week is the flash. So if you’re doing artwork and you can’t get it in on Friday, start a little bit earlier and I’m sure Shane will pop up in a sec where you can send your pictures in because the more pictures the merrier, and that’s even just a little bit of a start to get your hustle happen. If you want to put some pictures up in the Friday night, it’ll be shown art at com studio. So all the regular guys will be there and a few new guests. Now I’m just having a look through everything here. I’ve done that, I’ve done that. I’ve done that. Next week’s show, I very happy to let you all know that Australian comic book legend, Mr. Glenn Lumsden will be coming in for a chinwag. And if you don’t know who Glenn is, then I’d say by this time next week you’ll have a pretty good idea. But wow, I’m looking forward to that man, believe me. But I look forward to every Tuesday night. It’s just how it’s for me. Tuesday is a chinwag. I love it. And I’m going to leave you with this. It’s a hermetic phrase and it’s an oldy, but a goodie and may strike with some of you as above, so below as within, so without. All right, see you next week. Community is unity. Thank you.

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