Peter Wilson

Voice Over (00:00:05):
This show is sponsored by the Comics Shop. We hope you enjoy the show.

Leigh Chalker (00:00:27):
Good day. Hello. Welcome to episode 16 of Tuesday, Lee Hawker. I’m the creator of Battle for Bustle. And on this evening show we have a well, pretty awesome dude, a great member of the Coex community. And they pop, sort of pops up guest presenting shows every now and then too, and likes to throw his comic books and his art and his creativity around. So we have Mr. Peter Wilson. How are you mate?

Peter Wilson (00:00:59):
I’m good mate. How are

Leigh Chalker (00:01:00):
You? Yeah, yeah, I’m going pretty good. I’m going. Alright. Yeah, I

Peter Wilson (00:01:04):
Like that intro. It’s a great sort of montage of your beard getting longer each week.

Leigh Chalker (00:01:10):
Well I actually thought that today, Pete. I was like, man, if not only anything people watching and stuff and viewers that obviously watch it visually. You may not if you listen to it on a podcast, but you can see the evolution of the beard <laugh>. And it has surprised me with, it’s even grayer than what it was before. I trimmed it back a little bit, man. So

Peter Wilson (00:01:34):
It’s gone from Bernard Shore to full Charles Darwin. It’s

Leigh Chalker (00:01:38):
Good <laugh>. Yeah. Yeah, I guess so. Next time you see me I might just let it all go man. Have the old gray hairs out the ear and nose hair up in binds and dreadlocks and stuff like that. Yeah, I’ll go extreme man. <laugh> and paint in the head. Different colors. So yeah. Hey anyone watching at home or listening hasn’t seen us? Basically shows based on six prompting words, questions, who, where, when, why, and how. And we talk about anything in between. Just have a chinwag. So I’m just gonna go straight into it. Pete who mate who

Peter Wilson (00:02:22):
<laugh> Peter Scribble and Squier Art sounds a bit grandiose for what I do. So I always stick with those. Mostly cartooning, mostly comedy. If it makes me laugh, I like to put it on paper first. Comic Crimson and Rascal. Now I’m working on foes for comics.

Leigh Chalker (00:02:47):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Peter Wilson (00:02:48):
Other titles in between.

Leigh Chalker (00:02:51):
And you pop up here and there man, you’re in Moose and you’re in satellites and there’s Peter Wilson sprouting all over the place. Man,

Peter Wilson (00:03:02):
I’m really flattered that people, the Moose was one of the first projects I was asked to be a part of. I brought my friend Robbie Donaldson into the fold to draw a lot of, from the Moose two up till four. I think we’ve had something. It’s been a lot of fun. It’s always very flattering when people ask me to be involved.

Leigh Chalker (00:03:23):
Yeah,

Peter Wilson (00:03:23):
Yeah. I still get excited really. Me. Okay.

Leigh Chalker (00:03:28):
Well I mean you’re pretty good at what you do mate. I enjoy your comic books so well.

Peter Wilson (00:03:33):
Thank you mate.

Leigh Chalker (00:03:34):
Crimson and RAs will had me chuckling away and you fa stuff. I mean the donut, I world domination and invasion over a donut. But hey, whatever motivates you man floats your boat donuts. So there you go. And I’d recommend anyone out there go and read those books, but we’ll come back to that later cuz Pete tell you where you can get, so buddy, you’re Newcastle, always been in Newcastle, new South Wales or where do you originate from?

Peter Wilson (00:04:05):
Newcastle was a fairly recent move about three, four years ago. <affirmative>, I was been to Newcastle a number of times. I only lived about an hour from here on the central coast. Lived in Gosford or around Gosford and WWE all my life. Met my partner Jess, who is a Nova cast and had a doozy one night and broke both my ankles.

Leigh Chalker (00:04:32):
<laugh>, come on. Yes, that’s go that left path. How did that happen, Peter?

Peter Wilson (00:04:40):
I wish it was an interesting story. What happened was I was doing the laundry, took a misstep, broke one ankle on the way down. Then I guess I tried to get my balance and that’s when the other one went.

Leigh Chalker (00:04:53):
Oh, <laugh>.

Peter Wilson (00:04:58):
So lying there in a day, wondering what now <laugh>. Luckily the hospital where I was living was a tiny little shoebox studio and the hospital I could see out the window,

Leigh Chalker (00:05:09):
Right? She obviously didn’t walk there

Peter Wilson (00:05:13):
<laugh> to the,

Leigh Chalker (00:05:17):
And

Peter Wilson (00:05:19):
My mum beat them when I called her and said, Hey, you should probably come and get my cat and whatnot, <laugh>. And because I couldn’t work, I came and moved in with Jess and got a similar job when I could walk around again. Mind you, it was a good few months of doing nothing but reading and drawing comics. So that was fun.

Leigh Chalker (00:05:35):
<affirmative>. So obviously lots of rehab involved in that too mate. So yeah,

Peter Wilson (00:05:41):
Most of when Foes was done was in bed bought outta my mind. I gotta draw

Leigh Chalker (00:05:46):
Something. Yeah, no that’s cool. So the original idea for FO was born from the Broken ankles or it sounds like a comic that sounds like a Coney entitled man. <laugh>

Peter Wilson (00:06:02):
Too. Slapstick make it more realistic. No, that actually happened.

Leigh Chalker (00:06:06):
<laugh> one of those stories, man. Hey, I knew a dude man who dislocated his shoulder picking up a pillow. It was like we were camping and oh I’ll just get me pillow and I only move six inches, mate. That was him done. It was

Peter Wilson (00:06:21):
Little things when your guard’s down, that’s when you get hurt.

Leigh Chalker (00:06:24):
Yeah, yeah, indeed. So be sensitive with me Pete, cuz I let my guard down about the 30th minute on this show. Shields down. Hey so while you’re laying in bed, that Fos already been gestating or was there Yeah, me kicked

Peter Wilson (00:06:43):
In. Me and Robbie Sson, who I mentioned before, <affirmative>, we, I wanted to do some sort of project together and we thought, let’s circle back. We had already done a very short animation for a mental health awareness charity or company. And we thought that was fun, but let’s do something for us now. We thought let’s kick around a few ideas. And a lot of it probably stemmed from Crimson Rascal one, where the premise is two aliens are fighting over who should get Earth and Crimson in a feeble attempt at heroics helps them instead of stops them. And I thought, well two aliens has been done, but it’d be fun if one was a demonn. I don’t really like drawing people, but I like drawing monsters and I like drawing sci-fi stuff. It’d be cool to marry the two and have the two genres and horror clash. Yeah, yeah. And then Robbie and I really finessed at it. We spent hours at a pub just thinking, wouldn’t it be funny? And it just developed from there. And then the more we talked about realized it was a bit out of our depth animation wise. We didn’t really have the skills, but I thought I could make it a comic and I could still get the story out there and that’d be fun. So yeah, that’s pretty much where it came from.

Leigh Chalker (00:08:02):
And where is that? What was the first touchdown that was in comics? Presents issue one. Is that,

Peter Wilson (00:08:11):
Yeah, that’s right. It was perfect timing when I was sort of just had done some character art, I’d done the first six pages or so, the early draft was really meandering. There was no script. It was kind of whatever I felt I drew. And the problem with that was that by eight pages still nothing had happened. It was just fun drawing. But when Shane got in touch and said, I’m doing the comics calendar, I thought, cool, I’ll contribute to that. I’m very flattered to be printed alongside Darren Close and the like. He then said, I wanna do a book hypothetically, would you be interested? And I was like, now would be a good chance. I’ve got half these pages done and nest them a bit, figure out how to end it. And I’m hoping to fix it up later. There’s a few pacing issues but I was really happy with it. I think it was the first comic I did where I felt I’d hit my stride. I enjoyed Crimson and Rascal, but a lot of that was still figuring out the mechanics of making a comic. I was still hitting my stride and figuring out what does work, what doesn’t work. But with FO was kind of like, yeah, this is fun.

Leigh Chalker (00:09:23):
So Crimson and Rascal, that was you just thought I’m gonna make a comic and you just sat down and yeah at it you didn’t read anything, it was just something you had to do. I’m gonna do a

Peter Wilson (00:09:35):
Code. Oh, I was a huge comic reader beforehand, <affirmative> and I finished my diploma and graphic design at TAFE and after about a year or two of not finding design work, I kind of figured I have to do something to keep my design skills up, practice with these programs and I’d always enjoy drawing. And I thought, well it’d be cool to do this, get some sort of basic story out there and at the end of it I’ll have some sort of product, something I can actually show off. I thought I know a fair bit about superheroes that could be fun. And then it was just kind of Crimson Crusader was someone I used to pretend to be when I was drunk to annoy my friend, I’d rip i’d up his bedsheets, which were red and wear them as a cape. And then I would only address him as my sidekick Red Rascal. Red Rascal fetch me a beer

Leigh Chalker (00:10:24):
<laugh>,

Peter Wilson (00:10:26):
It would make me laugh. And then by about 3:00 AM he’d like seriously go to bed. My wife’s pissed off <laugh> so I thought well I’ll just work with that and develop that. And I thought I’ll give him strengths. Strengths are very visually funny. I can do a lot of destructive stuff with that and I’ll make Rael smart since he’s dumb. And

Leigh Chalker (00:10:46):
I like the fact that all of your stories have come from you giving your mates some curry and that the idea and you and Robbie Donaldson having a good old yarn and developing characters too. Have what were, I guess because your stuff’s funny. It is funny. You’ve got an interesting take I guess on things. I recently read satellites and you’ve done a story in that about a cleaning robot that basically becomes very special overnight sort of thing or with a little bit of time and in two pages got you packed a lot of story and they absolute sense man and it was just perfect flow. So I was taken by that the other day. I was like, that’s a good one cuz yeah, I would say the less pages you got to work with, the more complicated it gets to tell the story man. Is that what you found?

Peter Wilson (00:11:53):
Oh definitely. But limitations are always good for creativity. If I had had six pages it would’ve been nearly as funny. The joke would’ve worn old very quick. But is the soul of wit, if you can get to something quick and punchy, I think that’s, it’ll stick with you. I think that is cut straight to the joke.

Leigh Chalker (00:12:17):
Sometimes

Peter Wilson (00:12:18):
It’s funny to have a really meandering joke but I think because you spend so much longer working on the comic, you want the joke to stay as fresh as possible. <affirmative>, I think it was Charles Schultz of Peanuts fame who said you have to feel what you’re drawing. So if Charlie Brown was depressed, it’s because he was depressed and he knew it would convey if he could draw it. So if I think something’s funny, I don’t want to spend ages on the one cuz then I’m gonna start doubting it and then I’m gonna start revising it and retelling it then it’s not gonna be as funny to me.

Leigh Chalker (00:12:49):
But

Peter Wilson (00:12:49):
If I can cut to the core of it and get to it real quick then I’ll hopefully still find it funny. If that’s not too arrogant to say <laugh>

Leigh Chalker (00:12:57):
Mate, I look, I’m one of those people and I’ve said it on the show too, is I think you gotta first, most of all what you are putting on the paper mate are your number one filter. And if you don’t think something’s cool, then I’ve found in my time drawing it’s like yeah I might put that to the side and just very true. Focus on just keep stepping it up. Do you find that you might just be having a zen moment in the backyard and these jokes come to you or Oh definitely. Is it observational humor? You know, could be walking down the street and see something unusual happen or interactions, where’s your primary spark? But

Peter Wilson (00:13:48):
Definitely sometimes it’s not even something that amuses me. It can be something that annoys me <laugh> or it can be something that depresses me. It can be like, well what quicker way to get over something depressing then I’ll turn it into a weapon or make it something I can laugh at <affirmative>. And that’s kind of empowering and that’s just, I would say that’s general good life advice. Even if you don’t make comics is try and find the funny spin on it <affirmative>. But I work retail a couple of times a week. Some customers you deal with the great character fodder.

Leigh Chalker (00:14:20):
Yeah.

Peter Wilson (00:14:21):
Things you see on public transport, things you do around the home, it can come from weird places inspiration, but it is a lot of little moments. Even if it’s just something as watching a movie like the robot one you mentioned I did that was from realizing that I don’t think I’d ever seen a sci-fi movie with a robot where the plot wasn’t that robot getting sentient and becoming more human when in reality if you spent hundreds of dollars on a toaster and that toaster wanted to become a poet and not toast your bread, that would be really annoying and you would want to exchange it <affirmative> and in the future, I was thinking, well that probably wouldn’t be much different if you brought a robot butler and all of a sudden it discovered it had free will and wanted freedom. The first thing you would think of is one, taking this back to jv, not keeping it. Yeah

Leigh Chalker (00:15:10):
<laugh>. Yeah you wanna refund. Yeah, you certainly would. But at the same time the double edge sword of that story is you give something else to think about because you know, take that path of they’re gonna take it back to the shop and hand it in with my docket. But then at the same time you do that you realize man this thing that’s broken is unique and beautiful and I could be in on this but then the,

Peter Wilson (00:15:40):
It’s that awkward moment of I don’t wanna be a part of a big spiritual movement. I just want my laundry done. <laugh>.

Leigh Chalker (00:15:48):
It’s a good comic. It’s a good comic. I like it heaps. So what was the first stuff, how young were you more cartoon men and or comic books as a kid, what was it that sparked it, made the storytelling thought

Peter Wilson (00:16:05):
I’d always been a huge reader. Comics included, definitely loved Snoopy, big Peanuts fan. I used to read that religiously Phantom. I used to get a lot of back issues at garage sales cause comics were cheap, especially when they were secondhand. My parents were very happy to stock me up for the week and go, okay, go sit in the corner. They probably backfired when I was about 27 and I’d still refuse to get outta that corner and not read comment.

Leigh Chalker (00:16:34):
<laugh>

Peter Wilson (00:16:38):
Garfield, loved Garfield, all those newspaper strips. Yeah, I was a big fan of and a lot of people turned away from it from probably about ages 12 to about 16, started reading novels and trying to seem cooler. Basically you’ve got time for high school and girls or comics and rarely two <laugh> circled back to it. I even remember just the distinct morning I decided, no, I’m gonna get back into this and start collecting properly. Hopefully my mom won’t watch this. I had taken the morning off of school <laugh> and would walk into a bookshop and he sold a lot of back issues from the Phantom Zone. It was a shop back in the day and I thought this would be cool. I was browsing the covers and I didn’t realize how cool superhero comics had become in my mind it was still very golden age simplistic cartoon know I didn’t realize wow you could genuinely make a badass looking Batman. That’s cool <affirmative>. And I thought I love Batman as a kid. I’ll get a Batman comic didn’t have any but he had Cat Woman so I thought okay Batman’s in this one I’ll get a Catwoman comic. She looks hot, Golin looks amazing, I feel I could go to this city. It was Catwoman 27 2 faces on the cover.

Leigh Chalker (00:17:58):
Yep.

Peter Wilson (00:17:59):
Picked that up. It said two be continued. So I took the next morning off, went back and brought all the other cat womans here cause there were a dollar two old the pop.

Leigh Chalker (00:18:08):
Yeah, yeah. I’ll bargain then. I’ve been known to at this age to pick up a few do here and there to check them out. What I do have to say, Pete is, I think it was you mate, but that sound effect as you started talking about Gotham City of the Siren and that going man was spectacular. <laugh>, I dunno if you know can see the future or anything or you’ve got a siren button just tuck down under the screen. But timing was impeccable man. And go,

Peter Wilson (00:18:41):
I hope I joke it doesn’t kick down the door or some lunatic in a clown costume

Leigh Chalker (00:18:46):
Well

Peter Wilson (00:18:48):
Out. But

Leigh Chalker (00:18:48):
Yeah, this would be the place to capture that mate. So it’d make the must see viewing I reckon. Hey with cuz I know you got a really cool spinner rack and I hadn’t seen the spinner rack in a long time and

Peter Wilson (00:19:07):
That was a lucky fire following that one.

Leigh Chalker (00:19:10):
Yeah, yeah, yeah. It’s what secondhand store obviously Garage sale. Yeah

Peter Wilson (00:19:15):
It was a comic store here. That graphic action, the first proper comic store I’d ever gone to that wasn’t just a bookstore. What had comics had my first pull box there. I felt like a VIP every time I walked in probably cuz I was buying so much comics. I was putting his kids through Uni

Leigh Chalker (00:19:33):
<laugh>

Peter Wilson (00:19:34):
And he said he was closing down. I was like how much for the spinner rack? I’ve gotta have one in my house. And he thought he laughed it off for ages until the last day when it was really apparent he was going. And I said no, okay, I’m actually begging uni now please. How much? And yeah, 50 bucks and as point of pride in my hallway with all my issue ones and valuable comics.

Leigh Chalker (00:19:57):
Dude, it’s a beautiful thing. I often kept an eye out for Spin Spinner Racks as a news agents up here that has dropped a spinner rack at the front of their shop and it’s like, oh I’d love to have one in the granny flat. So good on you mate. You one up on me there post. When did you come into contact Bud with Metropolitan? That’s a great comic book too. A cool person. Yeah, I see that. I just noticed that. I’m like, oh dude, I love that comic book when it came out. I’ll Spider, his name is, he’s the crazy journalist type dystopian dude.

Peter Wilson (00:20:40):
Anyone who hasn’t is the best background art you’ll ever see in a comic so get a copy of

Leigh Chalker (00:20:44):
It. Yeah, she’s pretty good. She’s pretty good. Good. Alright. What got you into the Australian comic books? Cause I know that you were a fan of those from a young age.

Peter Wilson (00:20:57):
So I collected DC pretty hard for a number of years and it’s still cool and I still pick up the odd issue but you do get to a certain point with superhero comics where it does get quite sane and there’s only so often DC can reboot where you go, okay, I can’t get into this again <laugh>. So I got a bit disheartened thought, well I’m not really interested in that. And then when I started making more of my own stuff it was, I wanted to see what was going on locally. And

Leigh Chalker (00:21:27):
There was a scene though, had you been privy to that or

Peter Wilson (00:21:31):
Not really? I didn’t know much about it at all. It was kind of like, which was great cause it was discovering comics all over again. It was a whole side of it I hadn’t seen started with kind of owner indie, that was kind of the first thing that popped up. Bought a whole bunch thought, I’ll just throw some whatever looks cool, bit of this bit of that. Dave Dyke, one of the first greener pastures, some of the first I’ve really gotten involved with that led me to

Leigh Chalker (00:22:01):
<affirmative>

Peter Wilson (00:22:04):
And D was very kind enough. I’m not sure how he got word he must have seen, I had Crimson for sale and he asked a couple of my short Instagram comics. I’ve got a couple of four panel gag comics on Instagram in his vex anthology <affirmative>. So I agreed to that. He asked what else I was doing it, was there more Crimson coming? Would I be interested in putting it under the Reary banner. Banner? I told him about Fos right before that and he seemed keen, that seemed pretty cool. Feels all about a bit cause I wasn’t quite ready to go to print. And then Shane came along and kind of nicked it of playing Shane <laugh>. But he sent me a great package, Gary of stuff. And that had Battle for Bustle issue one, which sort of put you on the map and it was really cool to do that first come stream with, put a face to the name and everything.

Leigh Chalker (00:22:57):
<laugh>. We were all nervous that night, mate. <laugh>

Peter Wilson (00:23:02):
A long way. What else did he have? He had a in there Toby, the magical pencil, some torn and that really that I was sort of because I was buying them, I thought well I’m just gonna message this dude. I’ll message Dave die. I’ll message them and just say, I really liked your comic man. Would you read mine and gimme some feedback? And all them were really nice enough to do it. And I realized it’s just such a nice niche community. And when Shane came along and kind of united all of us a bit more and sort of got things organized that really just the kickstarted something great.

Leigh Chalker (00:23:39):
<affirmative> <affirmative>. Yeah, I get mate, timing is everything they say it’s the same I, I’ve told you the story of quite literally opening battle for Bustle box issue one first one ever from the printer.

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And as I was opening it, there was Shane sending me a message, Hey how you going? I’m shamed. Yeah. And I’ve got an ad in the back of Battle for Bustle issue one of when Comex was a reader from here comics Network Australia, Australia’s home of the local comic book store and punching out in this. Yeah, it’s up there on the wall. So yeah, it was nice timing in that regard. And you’re right, yeah, with what you said before, just popping up everywhere things happening. But I’m gonna take you back to the, I think it was, I’m pretty sure it was the first time we met and everything when there was that first drink and draw. Do you remember back to that? And I think there was only eight of us at the time, mate, you know?

Peter Wilson (00:24:59):
Yeah, I think so. Yeah. The original, the og.

Leigh Chalker (00:25:01):
Yeah. Yeah. That was to me, that’s one of my favorite memories because people that I keep in contact with regularly now, like yourself and Spy and Shane and all that night, none of us had any idea what was happening or Yeah. And it was just a play and go <laugh>.

Peter Wilson (00:25:28):
Yeah, I had never done anything live, hadn’t met half the people. I was on nodding terms with Spy at that time. I don’t think we had done ose yet. But we had done a quick chat with Shane so he could teach us how to break down each issue and what would be contributing and when it would go to print. And I really can’t remember who else but, oh, ed Kiley. I had known, I’d interacted with him briefly before cuz I’m, when I put out Crimson, he had just put out radical.

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And so just by coincidence I think our issue twos came out the same time as well. So he was kind of on my radar and I thought he kind of does similar to me. Comics are a lot cool, but it’s also an Australian superhero. So it was kind of cool to go, oh cool, Edy, okay, I know that guy. Wow. It really is a niche community. And the first drink and dry. I distinctly remember desperately trying to log on my Mac. Let me, so maybe if you go back and watch it, you can tell. But I’m holding my phone in one hand, <laugh> and drawing with the other the whole night that it was really uncomfortable. But I was so desperate to impress that <laugh>, I can’t what? I’ve got it. So

Leigh Chalker (00:26:45):
You’ve continued to impress mate, what is it now? Must be like two years later now. Time does get away. It

Peter Wilson (00:26:52):
Does.

Leigh Chalker (00:26:52):
Mate. Look I had the same things as you. I was like stream yard, what is this thing? And I’m not the best with technology and things even yourself mate. I can get by. Yeah. It’s like a man that lives off salad when it comes to me with technology mate. <laugh>. Just enough. And yeah, it was very, I seemed to remember us having some huge debate about yellow in the Renaissance period. Yeah. Yes, <laugh> Good times. Good times. That was the first place you’d heard of Shane and yeah,

Peter Wilson (00:27:35):
Just Shane coming one day like a guardian angel and saying, Hey I’m trying to put a little network together. And me being like, you understand I’ve done one eight page Comic <laugh>. I think Crimson Two was only just at the printer at the time and thank god Shane such a die hard indie nerd that he had heard of me somehow. But yeah, it was the calendar and then yeah, presents one.

Leigh Chalker (00:28:06):
Yeah.

Peter Wilson (00:28:06):
Refresh. Yeah.

Leigh Chalker (00:28:08):
Yeah. You think back on the crew that was there that night, I guess the only one that had some comic book experience under their belt was Dave Diamond from memory. I’m just trying to go back. He certainly had a few out and the rest of us, I think were all onto issue ones and that sort of stuff. Yeah, fairly green man from memory. So yeah, it’s cool man. I enjoyed that. It was it’s good to be part of that. And now up to bloody episodes, 72 or 73 the other night. And I see you been doing some guest hosting and stuff of late on the Friday night drinking drawers when SPS is away and things and you’re doing well there Bud. But the one thing I want to talk to you, cuz I think we can probably talk about it, is now there’s some stuff happening on Sunday nights in the near future.

Peter Wilson (00:29:11):
Indeed.

Leigh Chalker (00:29:13):
Yes. Yes. So do you wanna have a yarn about Sunday nights, mate? And where came about?

Peter Wilson (00:29:22):
So Shane was hoping to do another show and he said, do you have any ideas? I was thinking you’ve got the Tuesday, which reminds me of a chat you’d have with a coworker instead of working, you’ve got the free for all that is the drink and draw, which is the party night. You’ve got the Os X show, which is a bit more business. I thought what’s missing is maybe much more sort mellow kind of chat that’s more about the creative process of whoever we’ve got on <affirmative>. So things like how do you get into the head space to create, how long do your creative sessions lost? Favorite tools, superstitions. That’s what I’m hoping to get into. Shane’s agreed to push the buttons and do that for me, which is great. Do the text stuff because I can’t do both <laugh> at all.

Leigh Chalker (00:30:13):
I feel you <laugh>. I get that.

Peter Wilson (00:30:18):
So it should be good. I was able to do some practice hosting on the drink and draw <affirmative> and yeah it, it’s good fun. I’m always five minutes before the show I’m hyperventilating going, okay, here we go. <laugh>. But the guys are also chill and even all the comment it’s for YouTube, it’s very nice. So yeah, very lucky in that sense. It’s been a lot of fun.

Leigh Chalker (00:30:39):
And what’s the name of it

Peter Wilson (00:30:40):
Mate? Sunday Spotlight.

Leigh Chalker (00:30:42):
Sunday Spotlight with PE and Sizzle. That’s

Peter Wilson (00:30:46):
Right.

Leigh Chalker (00:30:46):
When are you hoping to kickstart that? Man?

Peter Wilson (00:30:49):
I think it was December. Shane was hoping to, I dunno exactly when, I’ve still gotta get some guests organized. But yeah, there’s been some interest, which is cool. Had a couple of people put the hand up. It would be good fun. Maybe

Leigh Chalker (00:31:02):
That’s

Peter Wilson (00:31:04):
Switch it up.

Leigh Chalker (00:31:05):
Yeah. Hey

Peter Wilson (00:31:06):
We’ll switch it up and then I’ll host you

Leigh Chalker (00:31:09):
<laugh> mates. Sure. It’s like I’m happy that, I’m happy to do that. Yeah and I reckon it’s great man. The extra content, when I saw those pictures, the banners that you do come up with, you and Shane were doing another show. I was like that’s excellent. Cause I think the more content out there and providing avenues for creators and that sort of stuff means better. Cuz that was part of the goal of Chinwag as well, mate, was to allow people to come on and tell their story and give people an idea where they’re from and how they got on the pathway to do this crazy thing that we call comic books mate. So yeah, the more the merrier I reckon. But no, I’m really looking forward to that. So everyone keep an eye out for December. I’m sure you’ll be notified but Pete’s on it and looking forward to it. But now you said Phantom, but I know you’re a real avid collector these days of Aussie comics. So outside of the Phantom, what was the one that you got that was that boom? This is the one for me. Back in the young days

Peter Wilson (00:32:36):
Back in the young days Aussie comic, I had a lot of the cowboy reprints kid, cold outlaw, maybe Crockett. They were really cool. They felt very grown up to me. Snake.

Leigh Chalker (00:32:54):
Yeah. Yeah,

Peter Wilson (00:32:55):
I really liked that.

Leigh Chalker (00:32:56):
Did you collect those horizontal comic books?

Peter Wilson (00:33:01):
Yeah. Yeah.

Leigh Chalker (00:33:02):
Remember? Yeah. They used to get them at news agents too that used to open up. Yeah, yeah. An strange shape. They were bloody awesome there.

Peter Wilson (00:33:10):
I somehow got a book of ginger eggs off someone

(00:33:13):
And I remember being blown away reading it and thinking it was pretty funny. But then they were drop references into the cricket, the CG and I Aussie reference, I go, I can relate to that, that’s me. And get really excited and realizing that hits a chord close to home. That’s not an Americanization, that’s not something I need to consult with my parent. What does this mean? Why is this felt differently? So that was really, that kind of stuck out to me when I circled back to it. Comics years later, especially indie comics, it was definitely amazing tales and greener pars were the ones that really stood out to me. It just seemed really high end greener pastures in particular. Just cause it was such an unusual story one day a cow just stands up beside, nah, gotta be human. It’s kinda like, okay I’m on board. Where does this go? Let’s explore that. Cool.

Leigh Chalker (00:34:13):
And had a very long and successful run too, mate.

Peter Wilson (00:34:16):
It did, yeah. From

Leigh Chalker (00:34:18):
What I’ve seen it, maybe there may be some other issues coming out in the future too, so that’s awesome. I dunno, I think I’m not going to say yes cuz Tim might listen and go.

(00:34:30):
Yeah, yeah. <laugh> <laugh>. Oops <laugh>. Oh no Lee’s done it again. <laugh>. <laugh>. Hey now I guess something I saw that was really cool the other day, Pete was you went to a comic book convention recently and I think it was in Sydney, one of the supernovas or ComicCons and stuff like that. Yeah. Now mate you wore a comic shirt there mate. And I was like awesome. Thumbs up to your buddy to me. You’ve become not just someone that started on the Friday night drink and draw, but as we were talking about before when we all started, you’ve become an integral part of the community mate. So I’m really happy for you having a part punted a new show and stuff like that. And I’m also very excited about about Foes when that comes out. When you are ready now is that gonna be your first full at 28 page, whatever size it is? Comic book?

Peter Wilson (00:36:00):
Yeah, that’ll be my first full length one. Yeah.

Leigh Chalker (00:36:03):
Are you excited about that?

Peter Wilson (00:36:04):
Very, very. I can’t wait to get into it. It’s gonna be so it’ll be all the comic stories and there’ll be probably four or five sort of bonus pages. Some to fix up, some pacing issues just to drag out funnier moments I thought could last longer. And just to give a little extra fight material. There’s a surprisingly large amount you can do with a donut.

Leigh Chalker (00:36:25):
<laugh>

Peter Wilson (00:36:28):
A very versatile beverage. It’s a great thing. Yeah, it’s a lot of fun to draw those characters, you know, can give them so much punishment and they just come back and you really don’t need to give an explanation beyond they’re supernatural. They can do what they like and it’s a good way to exercise my demons, all my pettiness and feelings of wrath and they all just get put on the page into those guys.

Leigh Chalker (00:36:53):
Yeah, I like that too though man. I think that quote that you said before about what that person’s feeling at the time of doing that artwork is a perfect analogy that you gave cuz it’s true. It’s very true. Just from even my own thoughts when I’m doing artwork and that I can see that some pages are happier than others. Depend on frame of mind or what you’ve been through that day and stuff like that. I guess I, I’m excited for you with Foes and your full length comic book cuz I, I’m looking at a dude, a fellow creator, you know, started off with your eight 10 pages and your two pages, your stories you learn and as you go and your stories and that and then you’re finally gonna be able to get that full length comic book out man and yeah, I’m just excited for you dude, cuz I remember my feelings of getting that first full length comic book and it’s a pretty cool thing. Are you gonna have a space on the spinner rack for that one? But

Peter Wilson (00:38:04):
<laugh> I tend not to because I do always put it up there as a novelty. I’ll put Cris in with my other collection and then I go, what are you doing? Don’t do that <laugh> arrogant but I hope it’ll be on other people’s racks.

Leigh Chalker (00:38:18):
Yeah, are you gonna keep one of them?

Peter Wilson (00:38:23):
I like to keep one for posterity. It’s always good to have a reference point.

Leigh Chalker (00:38:27):
Yeah, <laugh> indeed. To see how actually mine is so bloody folded and bent now man from rereading and whenever I do the next issue I’ve gotta go back and reread everything. <laugh>. Yeah. Some of mine don’t look the way they used to. Let me tell you

Peter Wilson (00:38:44):
My copies of presents are the same because I’ve written all over where what I have to fix for the anthology issue. The collection, sorry, sorry, <affirmative> and there’s, why did I draw this? And then some just say you fix this and <laugh> like you didn’t do that. <laugh>

Leigh Chalker (00:39:05):
The old. See that’d be a great addition to get in itself somewhere down the track mate. You know what I mean? Put in Pete’s special edition with all the notes and stuff like that so people can go, oh this is how this dude I guess chased himself while he was working on his next issue of his comic book.

Peter Wilson (00:39:28):
I was given the idea that I should do an addition as if Zero or Dement had edited it.

Leigh Chalker (00:39:33):
Oh that’s a pretty good idea. <laugh>,

Peter Wilson (00:39:37):
Why did you draw me so short? Why did you draw the Demonn hitting me? Why did, oh well Adam, whys your family for this?

Leigh Chalker (00:39:45):
I like the idea of that. That’d be funny man, to get that perspective <laugh> because they’re Nick sort of here we got, this is what Chin Wagon does. I came across real appreciation of mini comics of late and now Crimson and Rascal is, would you call it a mini a

Peter Wilson (00:40:12):
I would now. Yeah. I don’t hate the 10 pages each year. Definitely.

Leigh Chalker (00:40:17):
But even size wise it’s a little bit different from recollection of the I guess American size comic book.

Peter Wilson (00:40:26):
I think it’s a standard size comic. It’s just the length of it. I did mini foes. I did mini foes

Leigh Chalker (00:40:33):
One. That’s right. Okay, so here you go. I’m glad you know what you’re talking about. <laugh> my bloody hell. It’s like Lee <laugh>. That’s what I wanted to get to with was that. That was obviously a conscientious decision to go with a mini the first time

Peter Wilson (00:40:52):
I wanted to have something in print of those. A lot of it, it’s a couple of reasons. One was looking back at Crimson and how it goes when you first draw a character towards the ends of the book, you fines it a lot more. You can draw them quicker, they look more fluid. But I thought it’d be a shame to have to go through that with foes. Why don’t I just draw a few comics now, get all that rough stuff outta the way then that’ll be better for presents. And it was also, it’d be, I kind of wanted just to have something in print to give out before presents in my mind it was a way of saying now these characters exist. And I thought I don’t really want it to be a full comic. I thought how can I get this done quick? What’s the quickest way? Just quick story, bash it, go to Officeworks, print it. There you go.

Leigh Chalker (00:41:43):
Yep.

Peter Wilson (00:41:47):
The only problem was I couldn’t decide who should win being the day. I didn’t want one. I didn’t wanna give the impression that the Demonn or the Alien was better than the other. They’re both equally evil, powerful and stupid. So my general rule providing them is either they both lose one losers but at no point do they both win. So I thought, well I’ll tell the same story in a different way and have one win, one lose and it can be a lucky dip if people want, they can get one where zero wins, they can get one with Dement wins

Leigh Chalker (00:42:20):
<affirmative>.

Peter Wilson (00:42:21):
And that also helped cause I couldn’t decide on the story what would be more fun. So two variations of the same story, basically them trying to possess or gain, possess or abduct a victim only to find out the other one’s called dibs and is really ticked off

Leigh Chalker (00:42:41):
<laugh>.

Peter Wilson (00:42:42):
So it was really just a case of me going, I wanna get a comic out quickly as possible. How do I do it? And then

Leigh Chalker (00:42:50):
I love the ingenuity behind me and that’s one thing that attracted me to those mini comics that I saw recently was just she just get it done. There’s no waiting time. It’s a full

Peter Wilson (00:43:01):
On. I would recommend anyone try just as a challenge to yourself. It’s a real great, great process.

Leigh Chalker (00:43:07):
Yeah, no that’s cool. I’m glad that you’re positive about it cuz I’m definitely gonna have a little punt at one early in 2023 mate, just to have a shot at it. Two. So I’m glad said that because that, you know, have some self doubts. You’re like yeah and now you’ve just like, you’ve thrown the challenge down now man. So it’s like I’m gonna have a punt at it

Peter Wilson (00:43:32):
As Ed Kiley the king of mini comics by the way. He does incredible ones just freaking do it.

Leigh Chalker (00:43:39):
<laugh>. Yeah, yeah, that’s exactly right. True words

Peter Wilson (00:43:42):
Physically harm you if you don’t so

Leigh Chalker (00:43:45):
<laugh>. Yeah, yeah. Well two lots of tru words have never been spoken so there you go. So everyone out there sort about doing a mini do a mini,

Peter Wilson (00:43:56):
Alright. That’s how I envision most faux stories going forward actually. Very much shorter issue too will probably just be a collection of shorter four page stories like that.

Leigh Chalker (00:44:07):
Yeah, yeah. That’s cool. Do you have a grand story for the characters created or are you just thinking of just sticking to short stories mate and doing?

Peter Wilson (00:44:18):
There is kind of a loose arc. There’s kind of three loose arcs that don’t really go anywhere. The first kind of loose arc is them giving up on taking over the world completely and just focusing on each other. Then the second arc is them kind of realizing without the other one they’re useless, they’ve kind of lost themselves. And I always imagined if I wanna do a big finale it’ll be about another demonn and another alien who become best friends and they’re absolutely disgusted by that cause they can’t, it kind of is a mirror up to themselves. So they team up just to destroy these other two who are doing a really good job of taking over the world.

Leigh Chalker (00:45:02):
Oh I like all three of those man. I think you, I could understand why you in a state of flux on that cuz it’s like any one of would be cool step to see where that story goes. I reckon that’s cool.

Peter Wilson (00:45:21):
There’s also a lot of nonsense ones I want, I’ve got a couple in mind from the very beginning one where Dement finds a baby. I’ve got one where zero runs a fast food restaurant. <laugh>, a lot of people suggested they should cross over with Crimson. I don’t know if that’ll happen but that could be fun.

Leigh Chalker (00:45:41):
<affirmative>

Peter Wilson (00:45:43):
Sps it throughout a devil’s toilet, Dement crossover.

Leigh Chalker (00:45:46):
Well that

Peter Wilson (00:45:48):
There’s a lot of possibilities, a lot of fun

Leigh Chalker (00:45:50):
Indeed. But these things take time. So how long does it take you to do one of these things? As you’ve said today, you obviously going back and revising things and giving a bit more thought to what you’ve done. So from a perspective of say might be putting on you on the spot a bit, but I’m interested in this just from a creative output is let’s say an eight page story. One of your presents stories, what your sort of turn around there

Peter Wilson (00:46:28):
Presents I got done pretty quick. Well

Leigh Chalker (00:46:31):
You injured at that point?

Peter Wilson (00:46:36):
Only for phase one. I was pretty much on my feet for the rest of them. I do find it hard to juggle a day job and making comics so that can sort of eat into my day. I can write relatively quick. I find I am quite slow to draw. That takes me quite a while. I can do the rough pencils pretty quick, but when I have to ink it I find I’m quite slow. I try to chip away. I used to marathon it. I’d sit down at the end of the day work day and just draw until I couldn’t. That doesn’t go so well for me anymore <laugh>. And now I just wake up with a migraine from staring at a screen. I find I’m most efficient if I block it out in sort of four, five hour lots after that that I’m just going back and fixing stuff that doesn’t need to be fixed. But eight pages I would say, if I can do it at my own pace will take me about six, eight months.

Leigh Chalker (00:47:43):
Now You work full time too, you’re obviously full time. Yeah,

Peter Wilson (00:47:48):
I’ve got a couple of casual jobs I

Leigh Chalker (00:47:49):
Work. Oh yeah. So God you are juggling lots of things cause it’s like they’re hard enough juggling. I

Peter Wilson (00:47:56):
Lucky my other job affords me a lot of time just sitting with my clients while they relax and do their thing and they don’t mind if I draw as long as I’m prepared to drop everything if they need help.

Leigh Chalker (00:48:08):
Yeah. Yeah.

Peter Wilson (00:48:09):
So I’m quite lucky in that sense. And a lot of my managers at work when I’m at the store don’t mind if I spend my lunch break out back catching up.

Leigh Chalker (00:48:17):
That’s fair. So you have even been known to draw in your lunch breaks man. Cause that’s something I’ve never been able to do.

Peter Wilson (00:48:26):
That’s more of a panic of I need to get this done and when I hyper fixate, I’ll get an idea to fix up a panel and I can’t rest, I can’t eat, I can’t stop until it’s done. And then when it’s done

Leigh Chalker (00:48:38):
<laugh>

Peter Wilson (00:48:42):
And trying to fix or me telling my boss, just gimme a minute. Which doesn’t always end well but

Leigh Chalker (00:48:50):
Yeah. Hey art mate, you gotta get it out when you gotta get it out mate. You know? Exactly. That’s how it is. Yeah, no that’s interesting man. Cuz I just always wondered how I like hearing other people’s creative processes man. Cuz we’re all different and stuff and we all have different motivations. Just always interesting to learn here. I mean I guess finally, when was it that you finally decided, other than there would’ve been a point where you just went I am putting out my first comic book.

Peter Wilson (00:49:36):
Yeah.

Leigh Chalker (00:49:37):
What year was that? Because I’ve tended to find men. The reason I ask that is because as I was thinking during the week back on the last lot of chinwag is with Covid coming that seemed to really explode a lot of creativity amongst people. Men you did. Were you pre covid or after

Peter Wilson (00:50:08):
Just I would say after Covid was when I said okay, this is something I’m gonna pursue hard, not just for fun. And a lot of that was actually getting my first few deadlines and realizing okay, there’s a business end to this now can’t just be a hobby. And I was fine with that was good. That’s what I wanted. Probably Crimson two. Crimson one, I was still on the fence. I wasn’t really happy with the art. I thought it was a bit rough. I’d learned a lot

(00:50:35):
<affirmative>. But then I also realized what a grind it is, getting it out. And I was on the fence and this might bring down the mood a bit, I had a good mate, he passed away and I had gotten halfway through too and he was a huge champion of always creative friends. Their project, if someone did a painting, he was the first one to share it. He was the first one to tell galleries, Hey put this up. And if we were too nervous to promote it, he would make a huge song and dance. So I was halfway through two, he passed away, shattered my world and I thought, well I have to finish it. It kind of just tied up in my mind with, I have to finish it for him. I don’t know, I couldn’t really articulate more than that, but it just felt very important.

(00:51:22):
He would not have wanted me to quit because I was depressed or cause I was doubting myself. He would be like, but it’s awesome. Just do it. Who cares? What have you got to lose? So I thought, well I’m gonna see how I feel by the end of this comment. I said, here’s what I’m gonna aim for. I’m gonna aim to do better than issue one and that’s all I need to satisfy myself. Make it a bit longer, make it a bit crisper. And then that’s who cares. Not gonna be number one. And it’s not gonna win a Pulitzer, who cares? Just aim to be better than number one cuz that’s what he’d want. So it was when I finished issue two, put it together and said it wasn’t so bad actually I refined a lot of things. It wasn’t as hot. I enjoyed the actual process more and it was like, yeah, okay, I’m gonna stick with this. I’m gonna do some more we’re, I’ve still got the script for Crimson three, which hopefully I’ll do some point photos sort of came around shortly after that.

Leigh Chalker (00:52:15):
Yeah, yeah. Oh is that one of your goals to get back to Crimson?

Peter Wilson (00:52:19):
Yeah, eventually I did. The biggest problem is, especially with the climate at the moment with Marvel movies and just a huge saturation of superheroes. Even superhero parodies are being done to death at the moment as very things like the Boys and the Tick already do that so much better than me. It kind of feels like I’m treating old ground even with the characters that I enjoy. Those kind of feels a bit more fun at the moment. Kind of feels like something that’s not quite out there.

Leigh Chalker (00:52:48):
Yeah, yeah. No that’s, that’s cool. So I hope that your mate continues to motivate you in the future, man. I think

Peter Wilson (00:52:56):
He will.

Leigh Chalker (00:52:57):
Yeah.

Peter Wilson (00:52:58):
I can still hear his nagging boys going, why are you stopping you bitch? Keep going.

Leigh Chalker (00:53:01):
<laugh>. Oh mate. See it’s always good to have motivations like that. Yeah. As sad as the story is and I’m sorry for you having to go through, but the memories of people live on through the efforts. Yeah, absolutely. We put into what they encourage. So I certainly hope that he continues to be a motivation for you and you put out more good stuff cuz I enjoy it. Yeah, I’m a fan. Anyone can go to my Facebook page and see me post heaps of Pete stuff up there. So it’s like I do.

Peter Wilson (00:53:43):
I appreciate it every time.

Leigh Chalker (00:53:45):
No it’s all good bud. Hey I guess I like asking this question of people man. Why do you do it to yourself?

Peter Wilson (00:53:55):
Because I can’t not do it. It’s worse not to do it.

Leigh Chalker (00:54:01):
You got the bug in you now. It’s just one of those things.

Peter Wilson (00:54:05):
It’s something when I first started going out with Jess is something I would explain to her. I would love to do nothing but to chill out after work and watch a movie. I know it sounds ridiculous but I have to draw this superhero punching this alien just right. And she’s very supportive. She got it straightaway. That’s your passion. That’s excellent. You do year, but there’s no logic to it. <laugh>. I really can’t even to myself, why do I do this? It’s time and money but it’s no other alternative. It just has to be done <affirmative>, I think. And also just getting inspired. I see yourself working away. People like sped who can put out a book all the time. It’s just the work ethic and the inspiration and just the encouragement has only solidified it more.

Leigh Chalker (00:55:01):
Yeah. Yeah. That put any of your comic books out at one of these comic book conventions? Have you ever done anything like

Peter Wilson (00:55:08):
That? It’s always been, it was always a financial thing. Before <affirmative> last year my partner had breast cancer and she was going through chemo and treatment and it just really wasn’t an option. I couldn’t be away for that long. We didn’t have the money. I needed to work as much as possible. So it was really like, I’m happy not to do that and that’s fine. And before that was I couldn’t and it was always felt like I can’t go to a convention with my two little books speaking my partner, she just walked out the door. Bye bye. She’s just getting closer. So I hope she’s not actually leaving me

Leigh Chalker (00:55:50):
<laugh>. Well it’s must see viewing mate on Chinwag.

Peter Wilson (00:55:56):
<laugh>. That’s an exclusive Well ladies form up cue <laugh> in trouble. Now <laugh>, it was always, I didn’t have enough content or the big inspiration for getting the first comic out there was going to the first ever at go on the central coast and I think there was two comic booths. One of them had comics that were done. The other guy had a couple of sketches of a comic he was promising to do and no disrespect, but I felt like, well I could beat that. I could have a comic ready. I wouldn’t go to a convention and just promise to do something

Leigh Chalker (00:56:46):
<affirmative>.

Peter Wilson (00:56:48):
But then I went to Sydney and realized, oh I need 10 books. Shit, okay <laugh> gotta come. Correct. I’m still not ready. So I’m hoping to break the cycle soon. Now that I’ve got presents and foes and stuff. I feel like it’s a rite of passage. I’ve gotta do you, I’ve put it off for this long, which surprises a lot of people, but it’s definitely gotta be done.

Leigh Chalker (00:57:12):
I totally get that. I mean look man, I’m a comic book child of the Covid era so all of my that meeting people and that has been through live streams and stuff. So now that things are kicking off again all over the country, I’m hoping myself mate, that next year I can get around to a few things and finally get to meet some people like yourself. From that I can sizzle in person and have a good yard cuz and oh mate, there’s plenty of content out there. It is motivating Pete, I will agree with you, but I definitely understand you can’t articulate a can. It is just something that you have to, and it’s like a bug man. It’s just one of those things. But mate, it sounds like for me, just from talking to you sounds like I guess last couple of years has been a bit tough on you mate. So you, you’ve had the comic books there to, as you were saying before,

Peter Wilson (00:58:18):
Yeah.

Leigh Chalker (00:58:19):
You put yourself into that comic book for what you’ve been through and all that. From what you are telling me today, man, one for me, a compliment that I can see in people that I like to give is if I look at their work and I see them

Peter Wilson (00:58:38):
And

Leigh Chalker (00:58:40):
I can see Peter Wilson from talking to you now in your work.

Peter Wilson (00:58:46):
Oh thank you.

Leigh Chalker (00:58:46):
So can pick a drawing of yours from out of the lineup. <laugh>, ask Peter Wilson. That’s awesome. So yeah, no man credit to keep plugging away. Cause everyone does have different stories and different motivations for why they do it and you tend to find that mental health going through some stress and things like that are very important and everyone needs friends and avenues to help them deal with turmoil and the inner workings. So basically I’m all for you doing that. Men and your humor. It’s funny as dude on the page, so you taught me a few things today cuz it’s like I can probably waffle on a little bit and sometimes you do just have to get into the nitty gritty of it and tell that story and things man. And I like what you do. But as we sort wind down the show, we begin to get into our quadrant. What is it that for anyone that’s wants to do comic books, create, write is isolated lives in small communities or on the other side of the world and feels like they’re the only one that is creating these things and doing it. What would you say, what is your piece of advice, mate in the time that you’ve been doing it that you would pass on to someone else?

Peter Wilson (01:00:40):
I would say if you’re a fan of someone and their work motivates you, don’t put them on a pedestal. Don’t be, reach out to them. Don’t be cuz they don’t think they’re better than you has been. My experience especially when it comes to Australian comic creators even some indie guys from overseas have been very nice enough to get back to me <affirmative>. And that humanization is really good. As soon as you realize they’re people just like me, they create just like me, I sort of block goes away and it feels really like if you had told me a few years ago, I could routinely chat to Dave die or Tim ewn would go, oh hey Pete, and recognize me. I would’ve said, no, you’re lying. They’re rockstars and comics don’t exist in a bubble in Australia. The industry isn’t quite there yet, <affirmative>. So if you do have a work and you have got a comic in the process, don’t be afraid to show up what you’ve got. Join us on the comics, drink and draws, show us your stuff, chat. Just don’t be afraid to put yourself out there into network a bit. It feels really good to know there’s a community out there that has understand what you’re talking about when you talk about sequential art and page bleeds and splash pages and the

Leigh Chalker (01:02:18):
Proper measurements and fittings and pages, which everyone else will think you’re mad. But my God size can matter sometimes when it comes,

Peter Wilson (01:02:26):
When you say five lettering is your preference, people go, I agree and not what

Leigh Chalker (01:02:31):
<laugh> like. Yeah, righto. Like, oh, when you get excited in the art shop about your new pens are back in stock and you’re like, that’s it. That’s what I do. And if you find that you’re one of those people out there that picks up a new comic book and likes to smell the printed page and all that, then there’s people <laugh> in the community circle.

Peter Wilson (01:03:01):
Speaking of that, I mentioned before I bought, the first comment I got was Catwoman. Mm-hmm. Did the art on that covering interior. I found him on Instagram and he went through and liked a bunch of my stuff because I had told him, you know, inspire me to get into this. And that felt really, that felt very cyclical <affirmative> have him turn around and like, Hey, I like your Bronwyn piece. What’s Bronwyn <laugh>? It was really awesome. So now you

Leigh Chalker (01:03:32):
Have done covers for other things, haven’t you mate? You do get it in. Speaking of I’ve seen you cover for that. Where brought you to that?

Peter Wilson (01:03:45):
Oh, that was just Zach George reaching out. He said he liked my style and said, do you wanna do a cover? And I said, what should I draw? And he said, how about a snake? Snakes are cool. And that was <laugh>. Okay, cool. And you know, get a chance to draw a badass warrior chick. Go for it. I’m all, I’ve got a Sky Cabins cover coming up too next month for the Sky Cabin Vivian crossover.

Leigh Chalker (01:04:10):
Well

Peter Wilson (01:04:10):
That’ll be fun.

Leigh Chalker (01:04:11):
Yep.

Peter Wilson (01:04:12):
And

Leigh Chalker (01:04:13):
Have you done that or you, you’ve got, that’s

Peter Wilson (01:04:17):
Sort of been as very rough sketches stage somewhere. I’m hoping my schedule, I haven’t seen it in a while, but my room is really messy. It could be anywhere.

Leigh Chalker (01:04:28):
So another question for you that’s see chinwag made, do you veer off in all different <laugh>? What are you traditional digital? What’s your preferred method of things mate?

Peter Wilson (01:04:44):
Always start traditional, always end. Digital is how I can’t just pick up a tablet and start a digital piece. I have to start it in pencil and then I’ll go back and then I always finesse it in digital. I’m not quite confident enough to pull out a full traditional book yet. I always find I edit it so heavily it becomes digital anyway. But it’s a pretty big blend of both really. I find that seems to be my process. I have to sketch it out a few times until I’m more or less happy with it and then I’ll finish it. Usually using Illustrator is my preferred program at the moment.

Leigh Chalker (01:05:23):
Yeah, yeah. Oh very good. All right, well Pete, I’ll start winding down the show mate, but that’s alright. One more question for the people at home that may wanna get in touch, get in touch with you, get your books, where can they find your, but

Peter Wilson (01:05:43):
Can this handle here by Peter Wilson is on my Instagram on there is my very fairly functional website. But that’ll have all the links. You need that or you can find me on Facebook. Same handle.

Leigh Chalker (01:05:55):
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Very good. Alright, so now everyone that’s out there don’t forget to and subscribe the channel because the old algorithm and the more likes you get, the better it is. So pop on and enjoy and leave plenty of comments and stuff like that. Now today, tonight is the last Tuesday Chinwag of 2022. So just in a little wind down, I would very much like to thank Shane and Kerry a come for everything they’ve done for not only myself in the last couple of years, but the community and stuff and giving people other creators an avenue and creating a safe haven for people like Peter and myself and you guys out there that are listening and watching. So thank you so very much. I would also like to bring, mention that Saturday, November the 19th is Aussie comic book day. So if any of you guys are out there, you’ve been looking around the place or there’s an Australian comic book that’s peaked your interests somewhere and you’ve been putting off getting it and I’ll get it sometime later. Get it sometime later when you know what, November the 19th seems to be the best time to do that. So reach out, go to any avenue, reach out to any artist, say Goodday and check things out cuz there is an awesome, awesome and an awful lot of great content out there which I’m very lucky enough to read and get to meet the creators. Also, I can only implore you to go out and touch down base with all those things.

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I would like to thank all of the guests that have given their time to come onto Tuesday Chinwag this year. I’m thankful and means an awful lot that we’ve got through 16 episodes and I’ve got to meet in the lot better details. 16 lovely creators and people involved in the comic book industry community in Australia. So that’s really made my year and given me the motivation to continue after meeting all of these awesome people. I would wish you all a very merry Christmas and a happy New Year and thank you for your time and putting up with me. So go and support Aussie comics and remember community is Unity. See you next year. Bye all. Bye.

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